(November 28, 2014 at 6:33 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:(November 28, 2014 at 12:03 pm)Godschild Wrote: God wasn't worried about them living forever after they sinned, He was worried they would live forever in sin, having to grow more miserable day by day forever, they would be living in hell without the possibility of forgiveness. Hell on earth. God's plan was to redeem man so they could return to a relationship with Him.
Chapter and verse, please, to support the underlined passage. I haven't seen that elucidated in any version of the Bible I've read.
You posted my response to that question, below. If you've read the Bible and can't see the misery sin brings then you've messed one of the big reasons for forgiveness.
(November 28, 2014 at 12:03 pm)Godschild Wrote: Now you're getting it, keep looking and you can see more of the truth.
Quote:I've already kept looking. That search led inevitably to my loss of faith.
If that's the case then you went into it without allowing the Holy Spirit's guidance.
(November 28, 2014 at 12:03 pm)Godschild Wrote: Oops, now you have slipped back into not actually knowing what the scriptures say, you need to get these things correct if you plan on arguing against them. It was and is the Tree of Life, no death is associated with it. The tree of life was there for them to eat from, it wasn't put off limit.
Quote:You're experiencing English-comprehension failure, and tying the issuance of the death penalty to the tree, where I did not say the magic tree was associated with death.
You said the tree was created as the tree of life and death in post #376.
Quote:Your deity was clearly worried that humans might eat from the Tree of Life being become immortal. But ... they were already.
Not when the statement you referenced was made, by that part of the story the sin had been committed and the punishment given. Same post.
(November 28, 2014 at 12:03 pm)Godschild Wrote: Like I explained above [... bullshit snipped...]
Parker Tan Wrote:(November 28, 2014 at 4:26 pm)Godschild Wrote: There are no verses in that story that directly say that, however when one reads the whole Bible and pays the slightest attention to he/she is reading he/she would actually see what sin does to people. Then only those who really care to learn to live a life close to God would actually understand.
GC
Quote:Oh, I see. Your reading is right, and mine is wrong, simply because you say so.
Color me unconvinced ... especially now that I've seen your abysmal reading skills.
No, because the scriptures support what I stated and my reading skills in the scriptures are more accomplished than yours.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.