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Is Obama a President or King?
RE: Is Obama a President or King?
(November 28, 2014 at 8:05 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(November 28, 2014 at 1:12 pm)Heywood Wrote: Replace it with some actual health care. Like build hospitals and clinics. Build schools of medicine and pay people to attend them. I propose we replace Obama's big gift to health insurance fat cats with some actual fucking health care.

OK, so you want a big government takeover of medical schools? Fat chance that will fly with the GOP but let that go.

Great, that might make a difference 10 years from now.

Maybe.

What do you do with all the people dying for want of coverage now? Or do you just say, "fuck em, that's what they get for being poor"?

My simple proposal would be to have Medicare for everyone and just jettison the whole Byzantine and unnecessary health insurance scheme completely.

Sounds nice, but Haywood's stupid fear is that we will have to become Cuba or China to get that.

Um actually though in the more sane secular west open market societies it isn't all publicly funded either. What those states do which we do not, which is just as important, is that they have a lower pay gap between the top and bottom, and livable wages so that while they can depend on the state they also have better means even with the lowest paid. And that makes all the difference.
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Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 20, 2014 at 12:35 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Minimalist - November 20, 2014 at 12:40 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 20, 2014 at 12:44 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by downbeatplumb - November 20, 2014 at 1:31 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Alex K - November 20, 2014 at 12:45 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Minimalist - November 20, 2014 at 12:55 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 20, 2014 at 3:30 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Lemonvariable72 - November 20, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Chad32 - November 20, 2014 at 1:08 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Jackalope - November 20, 2014 at 1:52 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Chad32 - November 20, 2014 at 2:00 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Jackalope - November 20, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Chad32 - November 20, 2014 at 2:50 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Jackalope - November 20, 2014 at 2:57 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by DeistPaladin - November 20, 2014 at 4:48 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 20, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Minimalist - November 20, 2014 at 8:26 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Minimalist - November 20, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Anomalocaris - November 20, 2014 at 1:14 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by DeistPaladin - November 20, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Ryantology - November 20, 2014 at 1:57 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Chad32 - November 20, 2014 at 3:00 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 20, 2014 at 3:39 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 20, 2014 at 3:53 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 20, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Mister Agenda - November 20, 2014 at 5:06 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 20, 2014 at 8:38 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by DeistPaladin - November 20, 2014 at 10:24 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2014 at 5:20 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Mister Agenda - November 20, 2014 at 5:29 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2014 at 5:42 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Mister Agenda - November 20, 2014 at 5:54 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2014 at 6:07 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Mister Agenda - November 24, 2014 at 12:21 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2014 at 6:15 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2014 at 8:40 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Minimalist - November 20, 2014 at 8:42 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 20, 2014 at 8:54 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Minimalist - November 20, 2014 at 9:25 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 20, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 20, 2014 at 10:45 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Minimalist - November 20, 2014 at 9:34 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 20, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by simplemoss - November 21, 2014 at 12:39 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 21, 2014 at 12:51 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Minimalist - November 21, 2014 at 12:58 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Exian - November 21, 2014 at 2:08 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 21, 2014 at 2:28 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by TaraJo - November 21, 2014 at 3:20 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 21, 2014 at 3:54 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by DeistPaladin - November 21, 2014 at 9:11 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 21, 2014 at 4:02 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 21, 2014 at 6:27 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Thumpalumpacus - November 21, 2014 at 10:05 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by A Theist - November 21, 2014 at 5:57 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Gawdzilla - November 21, 2014 at 6:49 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Cato - November 21, 2014 at 8:44 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 21, 2014 at 5:43 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by The Grand Nudger - November 21, 2014 at 6:14 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Minimalist - November 21, 2014 at 6:53 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by A Theist - November 21, 2014 at 8:21 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by DeistPaladin - November 21, 2014 at 9:13 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 21, 2014 at 9:33 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Ryantology - November 21, 2014 at 11:15 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Mister Agenda - November 24, 2014 at 1:14 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 21, 2014 at 8:40 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Minimalist - November 21, 2014 at 8:42 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 21, 2014 at 9:08 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Minimalist - November 21, 2014 at 9:38 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 21, 2014 at 9:42 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by DeistPaladin - November 21, 2014 at 11:03 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 21, 2014 at 11:36 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Silver - November 21, 2014 at 11:41 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by DeistPaladin - November 22, 2014 at 1:37 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 22, 2014 at 1:54 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Whateverist - November 22, 2014 at 7:36 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 22, 2014 at 7:46 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Whateverist - November 22, 2014 at 8:01 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 22, 2014 at 8:36 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Whateverist - November 22, 2014 at 9:53 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by A Theist - November 22, 2014 at 10:31 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Whateverist - November 22, 2014 at 10:33 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by A Theist - November 22, 2014 at 1:37 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by DeistPaladin - November 22, 2014 at 1:23 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by LostLocke - November 22, 2014 at 1:31 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 24, 2014 at 8:17 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Brian37 - November 24, 2014 at 8:36 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 24, 2014 at 9:00 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Jaysyn - November 24, 2014 at 1:38 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Brian37 - November 24, 2014 at 2:13 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Jaysyn - November 24, 2014 at 2:17 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by DeistPaladin - November 22, 2014 at 8:38 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 22, 2014 at 8:50 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by A Theist - November 22, 2014 at 9:04 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by DeistPaladin - November 22, 2014 at 2:45 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by A Theist - November 22, 2014 at 7:18 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Minimalist - November 21, 2014 at 9:44 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Silver - November 21, 2014 at 11:07 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by simplemoss - November 22, 2014 at 12:00 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Jaysyn - November 22, 2014 at 1:56 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 22, 2014 at 2:04 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Losty - November 22, 2014 at 10:01 am
Re: RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by KUSA - November 22, 2014 at 12:05 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by downbeatplumb - November 24, 2014 at 1:11 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Brian37 - November 24, 2014 at 1:32 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by The Grand Nudger - November 24, 2014 at 2:01 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by TheGulegon - November 24, 2014 at 10:53 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Rev. Rye - November 27, 2014 at 6:39 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by professor - November 27, 2014 at 8:26 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Jaysyn - November 27, 2014 at 9:40 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by The Valkyrie - November 27, 2014 at 9:43 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Dragonetti - November 27, 2014 at 9:44 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by The Valkyrie - November 27, 2014 at 9:46 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Dragonetti - November 27, 2014 at 9:47 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 27, 2014 at 11:40 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by The Grand Nudger - November 28, 2014 at 10:18 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 28, 2014 at 12:18 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by The Grand Nudger - November 28, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 28, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by DeistPaladin - November 28, 2014 at 1:03 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 28, 2014 at 1:12 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Brian37 - November 28, 2014 at 1:19 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by DeistPaladin - November 28, 2014 at 8:05 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Brian37 - November 28, 2014 at 8:27 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 28, 2014 at 8:46 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by DeistPaladin - November 28, 2014 at 9:05 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Heywood - November 29, 2014 at 12:40 am
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Brian37 - November 28, 2014 at 9:43 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Minimalist - November 28, 2014 at 8:30 pm
RE: Is Obama a President or King? - by Dragonetti - November 29, 2014 at 1:07 am

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