Catholic miracles

[Surgenator]

Your assumption that every effect needs a cause is wrong. The natural world doesn't work like that on small scales.

There are a lot of things that random. Electrons going to a lower energy state are random. Spin orientation of an atom is also random. Johnson noise is random. The small world is full of random behavior. When you go to larger the scale, the mean of these random behavior wins out. That is why it doesn't seem random on larger scales.

Your claim that at the smallest of scales some things are random is just an interpretation. Its an interpretation that had to jump through a lot of hoops to be coherent.

An interpretation that is backup with evidence.

First you had to abandon causality, Second you had to change the meaning of random. Until these observations came along, randomness had always been just a function of our ignorance. Sure a dice roll seemed random, but if we knew all the variables that went into a particular roll, then we can predict its outcome.

Projecting again. Scientist abandoned the aether theory, the absolute time and space, geocentrilism, conservation of mass, parity conservations, charge-parity conservation, etc... The scientist abondon these ideas because they had evidence that they're wrong. And in the quantum world, there is plenty of evidence that shows the inherent randomness built into our universe. Yet, you want to project your ignorance upon the scientist.

There is another coherent interpretation which doesn't abandon causality and doesn't change randomness from just being a function of ignorance. It is the idea that some things on the quantum level have non local causes. By non-local cause I am not necessarily saying God....although it could be. In the other thread we discussed simulation hypothesis. If our reality is a simulation then all the quantum randomness that you think just is....is actually determined by some non local random number generator.

I have heard of the holographic theory of the universe. However, the proposed holographic universe will still have inherent randomness. So that doesn't support your claim that random processes don't exist.

Quantum mechanics and Bell's theorem do not preclude the possibility of non local causes. Why should I? Why should you? Why should you abandon causality and completely change the notion of randomness when there is a coherent interpretation that maintains causality/randomness? Is the possibility that we can make observations which suggest an external reality so scary to you that you have to go through these contortions of abandoning causality and the idea that randomness is just a function of ignorance?

So you think that non-local causes save you. Non-local operators only come up if two particles or more particles are entangled. You have to show how that is possible all nucleur decays to say non-local operators explain that. Otherwise, your talking out of your ass.