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Catholic miracles
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RE: Catholic miracles
(December 8, 2014 at 12:01 am)Surgenator Wrote: So you think that non-local causes save you. Non-local operators only come up if two particles or more particles are entangled. You have to show how that is possible all nucleur decays to say non-local operators explain that. Otherwise, your talking out of your ass.

First, its only within your interpretation of quantum mechanics that causality is abandoned and the meaning of randomness is changed. This isn't a case of science abandoning causality because it has been shown to not to exist. This is a case of some scientists abandoning causality because it doesn't fit with a particular interpretation of quantum mechanics they arbitrarily choose to believe. Many worlds is a quantum mechanical interpretation that is completely deterministic because the wave function obeys a deterministic wave function at all times. Your claim that causality has been shown to be false....is well false.

Second, entanglement is a quality of particles in our reality and not necessarily variables which operate on our reality. Yes...there is a speed limit on how fast information can travel through a reality....in our case it is the speed of light. However the speed of light is not a restriction on how fast information can travel to a reality.

If you are in a simulated reality when an atom decays, that information will take a certain amount of time to reach you as it propagates through each spatial coordinate of that reality. That amount of time is governed by, amoung other things, the permittivity and permeability of the free space within the reality. However, sending information from a random number generator outside the reality into the reality telling an atom to decay is not governed by the permittivity and permeability of the free space within the simulated reality. The speed at which that information propagates can be and probably is much faster then our speed of light.

Non local variables are going to take on a lot of the properties of entangled particles....but they do not have to be entangled particles.
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Catholic miracles - by beatlesman - December 6, 2014 at 11:01 pm
RE: Catholic miracles - by Minimalist - December 6, 2014 at 11:09 pm
RE: Catholic miracles - by abaris - December 7, 2014 at 11:05 am
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RE: Catholic miracles - by Surgenator - December 8, 2014 at 12:01 am
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RE: Catholic miracles - by Surgenator - December 9, 2014 at 2:34 pm
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