nobody is disputing the definition, evf, what we're disputing is whether they exist as anything more than a concept, whether they exist as a true science in that they can be measured accurately in clearly quantifiable units.
and super cynic, may i just say thank you for a response that didn't have any personal slurs in. i do not claim to know exactly how ideas are passed from one brain to another - nobody knows for sure - but yes, of course there is some mechanism for mimicry and without doubt these views have been passed down through oral tradition and culture, i have never disputed that. all i am saying is that there is no evidence that ideas travel around specifically in individual pockets of non physical memes. they certainly travel, ideas certainly spread, but it is not certain that they travel in individual measurable units. it canot be ruled out that ideas are exchanged in much more different, tangible, perhaps more complex, ways. and so memetics is not yet science.
and super cynic, may i just say thank you for a response that didn't have any personal slurs in. i do not claim to know exactly how ideas are passed from one brain to another - nobody knows for sure - but yes, of course there is some mechanism for mimicry and without doubt these views have been passed down through oral tradition and culture, i have never disputed that. all i am saying is that there is no evidence that ideas travel around specifically in individual pockets of non physical memes. they certainly travel, ideas certainly spread, but it is not certain that they travel in individual measurable units. it canot be ruled out that ideas are exchanged in much more different, tangible, perhaps more complex, ways. and so memetics is not yet science.
