Is free will real?

[bennyboy]

If there are no people to see the Ferrari, but rather a troupe of monkeys, is it still a Ferrari, or even a car?

Yup.

Well, I don't see how we are going to get past this point, then. You are projecting your own context into the hypothetical experience of monkeys. However, that "reality" is not a reality for those monkeys-- they are not experiencing Ferrari-ness when they throw poo at the shiny red thing. An idea which works only in a local context (i.e. for humans but not for monkeys), but which does not generalize to ALL possible contexts, I would not confidently call "real." I would call it a context-based reality. And, of course, my next questions should be obvious-- is there such a thing as a reality which is not context-based in that it is dependent on the conceptualization of a living thing?