The less you attend church the more likly you are willing to support douch baggery

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The Irony is you live in a world that has been secured by torture and slavery, yet selfrighteousness and hyprocrisy will not allowed you to acknoweledge that your rest in the shade the tree of slavery and 'EIT's provide.

Yes, I'm well aware that aspects of the world I live in came about due to these things; that doesn't require me to like them or advocate for them. What a completely ridiculous position to take.

We're imperfect people working through imperfect means, but that doesn't entail that we should simply pretend that nobody ever made mistakes in the past; we need to acknowledge and learn from those mistakes no matter if we benefited from them or not.

That is why I say it is no big deal, because I enjoy the world we live in and I am not ashamed as to how it came about.

Which also carries the implied assumption that you think the world couldn't possibly have been better than it is now, if those things had never happened. I'd love to know how you came to that conclusion.

Besides, where is the connection between enjoying the world you live in, and being bound to think of its history as completely perfect?

The only difference between me and someone like you is I am not afraid to say the life, soceity/country I live in takes a big dump on the idea of absolute 'moral values' and makes everything relitive. That I am not defined by what others think of me 'morally.' That I am not defined by a hypocritical standard that has me DIRECTLY BENEFIT from practices i am supposed to be offended by.

And again, the assertion of moral relativism sans evidence or justification.

And if you benefit from slavery and torture now, that's on you; I certainly don't. If it happened in the past then I and my moral standard can hardly be blamed for that, and if it's happening in the present then I actively disassociate from it. It'd only be hypocritical if I operated through the bizarre prism you interpret the world through, and I don't.

Again, this is where you people abandon common sense in favor of hyprocrisy to save your crap 'morality.' Even If the worst of us lived in a cities like Kandahar, Gardez or even Kabul where there are terror attacks daily, and all it took was to take those in custody and expose them to EIT's. you people would look at the lessor of two evils (One being the deaths and terrorization of your lives/families, the other being a non life threatening EIT) and demand the EIT in exchange for the life you now live!!!

Yeah, because inflicting violence upon a group of people who are already disposed to using violence themselves has never galvanized and sharpened their own hatred and willingness to use violence.

Torture is a short term solution, Drich: you can't torture everyone, and by torturing anyone you're just giving legitimacy to the grievances of the violent party. But then, it's not surprising that you're only thinking of the simplistic, short term solutions.