Any Theists on AF, I Challenge You to a Debate on the Existence of God

[abaris]

The question is how you think God/ the universe relates to you, not you to it. Is it indifferent to your plight. That's the difference that faith brings.

I get that you have a negative understanding of Christianity. That seems a waste of brain processing cycles to me. You spend energy having to put something down rather than enriching your own experience.

First, for me the universe doesn't relate to me at all. I'm nothing, we're all nothing. We only matter to ouselves and to our loved ones and friends.

And, though you obviously talked to Jenny, my answer to your second paragraph is the following. Why of all the possible deities, the christian god? All the deities ever existing have obvious human traits, human needs and human vices. So it stands to reason, that they have been created by human imagination. Also, there's no question about the earth being 4,5 billion years old, the universe about 13,5 billion years. Humans or their close ancestors populate this earth for about 4 million years. I'm not entirely sure, but that's approximately it. So we're nothing to what our planet has seen in it's long history. To imagine a caring deity for a species that virtually was born yesterday is simply human grandeur and arrogance.

All in all, it doesn't add up. There's neither evidence nor logic behind any god, unless you want to think about some neutral uncaring force.