RE: Any Theists on AF, I Challenge You to a Debate on the Existence of God
December 27, 2014 at 3:47 am
(This post was last modified: December 27, 2014 at 3:49 am by psychoslice.)
(December 27, 2014 at 3:29 am)Surgenator Wrote:(December 27, 2014 at 3:13 am)psychoslice Wrote: Yes that is true also, but also we are thrown into this life with only a minimum amount of feelers, such as our senses. Because of this we can only feel a very small part of the whole, and that part we make into knowledge, and label it, but that's all it is, labels, or pointers pointing to that which cannot be truly known just by our senses.
You are trying to propel non-objects like love and consciouness into objects that are non-physical. This needs to be justified because there are objects and processes. You want everything to be objects.
Everything is a process, nothing is static, its all ever flowing, even objects that we can touch are flowing, each time we touch it its never the same as before, its like stepping into a river, you can never step into the same river. So what we know as objects are again through the senses, and this whole Cosmos of flowing is God, or whatever name you like, its all a mystery, you and I well never get it.
(December 27, 2014 at 3:33 am)robvalue Wrote: I'm not done, more atheist rantings ahoy!
We also describe totally random powers this "creator" has. If it created our universe, it must know everything and be able to do anything! No, that's fucking ridiculous. Just because it can make something that seems impressive to us, that does not imply total control over it, or anything else. It might me the thickest piece of shit in it's own reality. Of course, we have "decided" that it has no peers, based on nothing.
And this ludicrous idea that it can and will give "afterlives" in some meta-dimension to every bit of slimy crud that goes through a cosmic blink of existence, to stay forever in some dream land or hell hole. We just decided it can do this, based on what we want to happen. Crud dreams. Thinking that this makes it real is letting fantasy entirely consume reason. We have no single speck of evidence for afterlives. A familiar trait for religious ideas.
There is no it, nothing created the universe, there is nothing but the universe, so who is creating ?.
