[split] Hello everyone

[pocaracas]

Where in Europe are you from?


errr... wrong!
Take orthodox christians as an example of pre-protestant christians.
Also, catholics ARE christians.

Sorry Orthodox Christians? Pre-protestant Christians?

Orthodoxy is without paradox as that is what orthodox means . . . to say that they are not saved-sinner for sure.

Christian is without paradox as that is what Christian means = freedom from the law of slavery to sin.

That must have been a protestant Wiki, you think?

It's so nice that they split this thread up!

Orthodox christianity.
You seem confused as to what "orthodox" means... Here are a few dictionary entries.
Orthodox:
adjective
1. of, relating to, or conforming to the approved form of any doctrine, philosophy, ideology, etc.
2. of, relating to, or conforming to beliefs, attitudes, or modes of conduct that are generally approved.
3. customary or conventional, as a means or method; established.
4. sound or correct in opinion or doctrine, especially theological or religious doctrine.
5. conforming to the Christian faith as represented in the creeds of the early church.


So, I'd say it's following the pre-established order of things.
If their claim is true, then the orthodox are the ones who follow the true teachings of christ... or something along those lines.
While catholics follow the "building" initiated by Peter, the stone. A different interpretation of the "original" teachings of the one they called the christ... so they're also christians.


also...

The First Council of Nicaea was a council of Christian bishops convened in Nicaea in Bithynia by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325. This first ecumenical council was the first effort to attain consensus in the church through an assembly representing all of Christendom.[5]

Its main accomplishments were settlement of the Christological issue of the nature of the Son of God and his relationship to God the Father,[3] the construction of the first part of the Creed of Nicaea, establishing uniform observance of the date of Easter,[6] and promulgation of early canon law.[4][7]

oh, the wiki is protestant... woe to the wiki!


Perhaps we can look into those CoE protestants:

Council of Nicaea, (325), the first ecumenical council of the Christian church, meeting in ancient Nicaea (now İznik, Tur.). It was called by the emperor Constantine I, an unbaptized catechumen, or neophyte, who presided over the opening session and took part in the discussions. He hoped a general council of the church would solve the problem created in the Eastern church by Arianism, a heresy first proposed by Arius of Alexandria that affirmed that Christ is not divine but a created being. Pope Sylvester I did not attend the council but was represented by legates.