RE: Any Theists on AF, I Challenge You to a Debate on the Existence of God
December 27, 2014 at 6:04 pm
(This post was last modified: December 27, 2014 at 6:06 pm by Jenny A.)
(December 27, 2014 at 6:48 am)fr0d0 Wrote:(December 26, 2014 at 11:06 pm)Jenny A Wrote: To be selfish is think of ones-self foremost without regard to the rights, comforts, or needs of others. Believing that the universe is not made for people and no god is looking out for people, might make one more aware that one is dependent on oneself and others, but it hardly leads to selfish behavior with regard to others. Atheists don't appear to be generally selfish, nor theists generally selfless.
So you have no safe guards or checks and you don't think about it but you're confident that your led by altruistic motives? BS.
And you think that submitting to an overarching positive influence leads to egotistical living? Again... BS.
You insist upon moving the target from what exists, to whether those trying to determine what exists are moral. That is the ultimate ad hominem dodge and intellectually dishonest. If I'm right that there there is no evidence of god, whether I'm a good person has nothing to do with it, unless you are arguing that people who have found god are better people (good luck with that) and that their betterness is evidence of god. If so, so so plainly, because Christians do not appear any more moral, or less selfish to me. Nor does their virtue, if any, evidence of a divine being, only the efficacy of a belief system.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.