RE: Any Theists on AF, I Challenge You to a Debate on the Existence of God
December 27, 2014 at 9:25 pm
(December 27, 2014 at 7:56 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I'm not moving the target Jenny I'm following your diversion here. We've covered that I'm addressing reality/ not ever discounting it, and you moved onto trying to make me/ faith out to be selfish whilst promoting yourself as morally pure on your own steam. You see the problem with that? Good. Now carry on with your self delusion.
Where did I say religion was selfish? Or claim to be morally pure for that matter. You suggested that my world view might be selfish.
I said:
(December 26, 2014 at 9:15 pm)Jenny A Wrote: I'm talking up one side and down the other about my world view. That view looks to the facts about reality, not my wishes about reality. I think it's dangerous to mistake what we want to be, for what is.
To which you responded:
(December 26, 2014 at 9:30 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: So does mine (look to facts). Why I submit to organised religion is so that I don't introduce personal failings. How do you know your world view isn't selfish?
The diversion from the question of whether there is a god is yours as is the introduction of any idea of selfishness.
The question of whether there is a god, is a question about reality, which is to say a question of fact.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.