(December 27, 2014 at 8:36 pm)tantric Wrote: I get my usage of 'dharma' from extensive readings on comparitive religion. If it pleases you, Wikipedia:Wikipedia? really?? That explains a lot actually. But again, the word originates from ancient hinduism and is in sanskrit. If you are gonna use a foreign word in place of an english word, at least use the proper meaning of the word.
Quote:Other uses include dharma, normally spelled in transliteration with a small "d" (this differentiation is impossible in the South Asian scripts used to write Sanskrit), which refers to a phenomenon or constituent factor of human experience. This was gradually expanded into a classification of constituents of the entire material and mental world.
(December 27, 2014 at 8:36 pm)tantric Wrote: It's part of the English language, just like Tao, jihad and kami. I was actually inspired by a Hindu physicists, talking about the dharma of electrons. Hell, my ferret's name is 'Ahimsa Dharma' (the lesson of nonviolence), 'cause ferrets, despite being horribly destructive, don't have a mean or hateful bone in their bodies.Writing a word with english alphabets doesn't make it a part of the English language, those are still foreign words and their meanings are still tied to their origin. As for your ferret, it's your pet, name it whatever you want as long as it doesn't sue you. But weirdly enough, some monks raising tigers claim the same thing about their pets, guess all pets are non-hateful, huh?
(December 27, 2014 at 8:36 pm)tantric Wrote: Where are you, right now, in cyberspace? I don't believe in vampires, but I'd never label myself as an avampirist or visit a website devoted to such things. Look at the forum - the one on top, what does it say? 'Community'. That's your tribe, defined by the shared core belief.We all use google, so are we all google tribe now? But seriously, this argument is pretty much the same as "why do you pick on christianity and not other religions?". Theism is a big thing which most of the world is taught to be real from infancy, Vampirism isn't a thing, nor is it shoved down everyone's throats. If it were, you would see avampirists as well.
(December 27, 2014 at 8:36 pm)tantric Wrote: Get it? When you take away a religion, you don't get an empty slate. You don't just stop believing or having a worldview. There exists in most human mentalities a 'slot' for a dharma. Like the slot for 'significant other' it has baggage, both cultural and sociobiological. Simply put, atheism, as a part of the dharma called 'Secular Humanism', will inevitably take on the characteristics of a religion as it gains widespread acceptance in the developed world. There will be holidays*, hero figures, rituals, canons, dogma, heretics, the lot. Eventually there will be Folk Humanism, a collection of esoteric beliefs devoid of the underlying scientific principles. It's just part of how societies work. Fortunately, mosts of those beliefs will be true and useful, but that's probably just the workings of cultural evolution - if rationalism is actually more useful than superstition, as one would hope, it has to happen.No dude, when you take away religion/theism there is no a-theism either. Sure there will be holidays, those don't need religions anyway, like the 4th of July. Hero figures? my dad & mom are my heroes and they don't have anything to do with theism or atheism. Rituals? Now that depends on your definition, even going to the office everyday at the same time can be termed ritualistic. Rest of that stuff....try taking off your religious goggles and look at the world for once...
(December 27, 2014 at 8:36 pm)tantric Wrote: So here's to the future. People will still live in a world of magic, surrounded by powerful forces that can't begin to comprehend. They will still ritualize their behaviors as a means of dealing with these forces, repeating actions that yield positive results, in the way it's always been. Powerful sorcerer-priests who delve into the deep mysteries will hand down the Law, and the people will accept it on faith.Did you fall down the stairs or something? Sleep-deprived? You need some rest man.
(December 27, 2014 at 8:36 pm)tantric Wrote: BTW, I spent three years as a PhD candidate in wildlife epidemiology, which is a hard science. Even though I only had a BA in Japanese, I was admitted to the program and given a two year full ride scholarship based on my post-bacc work and GRE scores. After I left the program, I found a hack that lets me continue to have access to journals, cause I just couldn't function without it. I'm *not* a layman.Again, we are not discussing your educational qualifications. Brilliant scientists of the past believed in weird shit, that doesn't make it everything they say to be true. Argument from authority works in the religious world not in the scientific world.
*Or we may stick with the Consumer Pagan holidays. We've been adding those steadily, like Valentine's Day.
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