The One Thing the Atheist Misunderstands

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So i think the message here is that when you look at life as an atheist and believe NASA you have nothing between you and the justification of your evil acts upon others. We are dust in the wind who cares. To you it will all seem fair as fair gets. Who would know better than you right?

Oh, hello person who lives in a universe without any other people in it! It's a bit strange to see you posting on an internet forum; after all, there are no other people in your universe, so who would be there to respond?

On the other hand, I live in a universe that is filled with billions of other living individuals of my species, and a multitude of other living creatures besides. Now, I know in your universe reality is empty and nobody is around, and so there really is nothing stopping you from doing whatever you like, but in mine there's this concept called "empathy," which is where you imagine yourself in the shoes of another person and can use that to determine whether or not you yourself would appreciate the action you're about to perform on that other person. Obviously since you're perpetually alone this isn't an issue, but since in my universe it's possible to care about other people, and since we've evolved to be empathetic and society-building as a survival mechanism, there are numerous justifications for moral behavior and the absence of evil behavior. Now you know something about a universe with humans in it!

I guess my point is this: you might be a complete moral destitute whose only reason for not being evil is the threats and cajoling of a magic space wizard, but don't you dare think that everyone is as psychopathic as you. Some of us were raised in universes full of people, and we have reasons other than the carrot and stick for being moral.

but if you define EXISTENCE as God. Then not only do you then have a real physical God you can see part of, from your perspective, and touch, and hear, and interact with, but the need to prove the reality of which becomes a huge laugh haha as woop there It is, so you also have the DUH part too lol

If I define god as existence then all I've done is defined an utterly vapid concept, as I already have a definition of existence that encompasses the parts of existence that actually seem to... you know, exist. I have no reason to attach the god label to it, because all the attributes of god that you seem to want to sneak in without justification by definitional fiat are not readily present within the universe. In essence, you're asking me to use a definition which has extra baggage that we can't demonstrate, when we already have a term that works with what the universe actually seems to be.

I'm not willing to make that leap in service to your dishonest little word game.

And then suddenly all those craggy old stupid religious books start to make sense to you in the most Enlightening way.

No, they still don't make sense. And apparently the only reason they make sense to you is because you're spinning them all through this metaphorical prism that you have no justification for using beyond that it allows you to come to the conclusions that you already wanted to reach. Sorry, but presuppositions like that aren't allowed here.