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What will it take to convert you?

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RE: What will it take to convert you?

December 30, 2014 at 11:54 am

(December 30, 2014 at 12:37 am)Alex K Wrote:

(December 29, 2014 at 11:18 pm)JuliaL Wrote: For a full and honest conversion, I need to be given equal powers to the God so I would know with confidence that I was not being misled by a demon.
OTOH, I have no idea how I'd be able to tell if I actually had equal powers and was not being misled by a demon. I suspect that knowledge would come with the omniscience thingie.
OTOOH, I still don't know how I'd know I was omniscient.

You'd... Erm... well, in that case you'd know that, too, and so on, recursively

But yes, I think an intelligence sufficiently advanced and powerful could possibly manipulate you into thinking you are omniscient...

Drat. That puts us back to the indistinguishable from lobotomy answer so ably demonstrated by online theists.

So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? Huh

Huh

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What will it take to convert you? - by Spooky - December 29, 2014 at 11:43 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Faith No More - December 29, 2014 at 11:45 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Crossless1 - December 29, 2014 at 11:48 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by robvalue - December 29, 2014 at 11:51 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Elskidor - December 29, 2014 at 11:52 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Spooky - December 29, 2014 at 11:53 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by robvalue - December 29, 2014 at 11:57 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by abaris - December 29, 2014 at 12:01 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Thackerie - December 29, 2014 at 12:01 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by thesummerqueen - December 29, 2014 at 12:07 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Tonus - December 29, 2014 at 2:00 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by robvalue - December 29, 2014 at 12:08 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Natachan - December 29, 2014 at 12:09 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by robvalue - December 29, 2014 at 12:12 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by dyresand - December 29, 2014 at 12:14 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Alex K - December 29, 2014 at 12:17 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by dyresand - December 29, 2014 at 12:22 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Alex K - December 29, 2014 at 12:16 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by dyresand - December 29, 2014 at 12:17 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Spooky - December 29, 2014 at 1:58 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Alex K - December 29, 2014 at 5:47 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Mudhammam - December 29, 2014 at 12:44 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Alex K - December 29, 2014 at 12:44 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by dyresand - December 29, 2014 at 1:12 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Whateverist - December 29, 2014 at 1:22 pm

The very thing that lead to my present beliefs... - by Landfish - December 29, 2014 at 1:23 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Whateverist - December 29, 2014 at 1:24 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Alex K - December 29, 2014 at 1:27 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Whateverist - December 29, 2014 at 1:55 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Alex K - December 30, 2014 at 12:45 am

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RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Landfish - December 29, 2014 at 1:35 pm

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RE: What will it take to convert you? - by robvalue - December 29, 2014 at 1:39 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by dyresand - December 29, 2014 at 1:42 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Alex K - December 29, 2014 at 1:46 pm

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RE: What will it take to convert you? - by thesummerqueen - December 29, 2014 at 2:02 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by robvalue - December 29, 2014 at 2:11 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Spooky - December 29, 2014 at 2:18 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by robvalue - December 29, 2014 at 2:25 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by dyresand - December 29, 2014 at 2:35 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Whateverist - December 30, 2014 at 3:15 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by One Above All - December 29, 2014 at 2:36 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by fr0d0 - December 29, 2014 at 3:40 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by abaris - December 29, 2014 at 3:42 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Tonus - December 29, 2014 at 3:59 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by thesummerqueen - December 29, 2014 at 3:44 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by fr0d0 - December 29, 2014 at 3:51 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Chad32 - December 29, 2014 at 3:52 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Spooky - December 29, 2014 at 3:54 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by fr0d0 - December 29, 2014 at 4:00 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Chad32 - December 29, 2014 at 10:41 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Elskidor - December 29, 2014 at 11:13 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Elskidor - December 29, 2014 at 4:00 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Exian - December 29, 2014 at 6:52 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by KevinM1 - December 29, 2014 at 7:51 pm

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RE: What will it take to convert you? - by KevinM1 - December 29, 2014 at 11:27 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by ManMachine - December 29, 2014 at 10:58 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by JuliaL - December 29, 2014 at 11:18 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Alex K - December 30, 2014 at 12:37 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by JuliaL - December 30, 2014 at 11:54 am

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RE: What will it take to convert you? - by JuliaL - December 30, 2014 at 5:30 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by subsecret - December 30, 2014 at 8:39 pm

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RE: What will it take to convert you? - by abaris - December 30, 2014 at 9:20 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by subsecret - December 30, 2014 at 9:51 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by dyresand - December 30, 2014 at 9:59 pm

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RE: What will it take to convert you? - by dyresand - December 30, 2014 at 9:38 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Brian37 - December 31, 2014 at 9:14 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Tonus - December 30, 2014 at 9:43 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Chad32 - December 30, 2014 at 1:57 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Spooky - December 30, 2014 at 2:57 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Chad32 - December 30, 2014 at 4:24 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Spooky - December 30, 2014 at 5:51 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Chad32 - December 30, 2014 at 8:08 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by abaris - December 30, 2014 at 8:20 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Brian37 - December 30, 2014 at 8:42 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by subsecret - December 30, 2014 at 8:57 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Brian37 - December 30, 2014 at 10:00 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by fr0d0 - December 30, 2014 at 8:45 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by The Grand Nudger - December 30, 2014 at 9:06 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by tantric - December 30, 2014 at 9:10 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Jackalope - December 30, 2014 at 11:46 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by IATIA - December 31, 2014 at 12:00 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by MJ the Skeptical - December 31, 2014 at 7:48 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by No_God - December 31, 2014 at 7:54 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by MJ the Skeptical - December 31, 2014 at 8:03 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Spooky - December 31, 2014 at 8:24 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by MJ the Skeptical - January 1, 2015 at 4:22 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by dyresand - December 31, 2014 at 2:46 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Zen Badger - January 1, 2015 at 5:39 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Chad32 - December 31, 2014 at 4:49 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by tjakey - December 31, 2014 at 10:30 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by jesus_wept - January 1, 2015 at 5:43 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Spooky - January 1, 2015 at 8:36 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by jesus_wept - January 1, 2015 at 8:44 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by abaris - January 1, 2015 at 8:49 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by jesus_wept - January 1, 2015 at 9:13 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Sillysheep - January 1, 2015 at 8:56 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Alex K - January 1, 2015 at 8:57 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by abaris - January 1, 2015 at 8:58 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Spooky - January 1, 2015 at 9:04 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by subsecret - January 1, 2015 at 10:04 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by IATIA - January 1, 2015 at 5:02 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Tonus - January 1, 2015 at 9:54 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Spooky - January 1, 2015 at 10:15 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by subsecret - January 1, 2015 at 12:03 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Spooky - January 1, 2015 at 12:34 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by abaris - January 1, 2015 at 12:58 pm

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by h4ym4n - January 1, 2015 at 10:47 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by Spooky - January 1, 2015 at 10:57 am

RE: What will it take to convert you? - by The Grand Nudger - January 1, 2015 at 5:10 pm

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