Any Theists on AF, I Challenge You to a Debate on the Existence of God

[Mudhammam]

1. The universe has no cause or purpose. The reality of it being that we are a live on a planet that supports life and there is millions probably billions of other planets out there that could or already have sentient life forms. But in the grand scheme of things we are just the result chance and nothing more. We are special in a way that yes we are alive we have a planet that supports our life, plants, animals etc. Also we are really lucky to have water in a liquid form.

But if the universe has no cause then it must be eternal. But big bang cosmology does not paint an eternal universe. So, the universe is probably not eternal, and we are left to wonder what could trigger a beginning of time, space, and matter, and that is what we are justified to conceive as a first cause, or God. Within this first cause exists the potentiality for universes, galaxies, and planets that are hospitable to life, and life that inexplicably evolved complex microscopic machinery, birthing intelligence with a conceptual basis for obscurely conceiving of the eternal, simple, order that is fundamentally responsible for us and whatever else may or may not be out there in the universe.

2. Again there is no cause or purpose it just is or isn't.

But it could very well be that it just is because it's good to be just as it is.

3. There is no cause to create our universe created itself within a span of billions of years. To say there needs to be a creator to create complex structures or planets will fall into the same argument god is to complex there for he needs a creator. Believe it or not yes the universe created itself after the big bang. Hydrogen and Helium were the first 2 elements after the big bang to exist they were both super hot they couldn't form bonds given time those molecules cooled down and started forming bonds creating other elements which in turn created our stars. In what what do we need a creator if nature and elements can form on their own without a god or some type of ethereal being to put it together what point does god have to say he created anything if everything just feel into place on its own.

If the universe created itself, it would precede itself, that is, not exist and exist simultaneously, which is simply absurd. The Universe as it exists presently evolved from relatively simpler forms, but did so through laws determined since the beginning of creation which beforehand we are led to suspect was nothinginess or void. But even void then must contain within itself the mechanism, or rather the freedom, to create universes hospitable to beings sufficiently intelligent to reflect on their surroundings and hence, their creator; this void, then, or infinite abyss, is a reflection of our intuitions, our understanding, and in a sense we are reflective of it, created in its image, or what others call God.

4. Nature is, not the affect of god and can be explained fairly easily. The most simplistic explanation of weather. Basically, the sun heats the earth and its atmosphere causing differences in air temperature. The warm air rises from the equator and travels towards the poles.

Yes, those are effects of causes, which the laws necessitate, but the laws themselves, per the big bang, are not necessary, for they also came into being. Therefore, we justly infer that the laws themselves are conditioned on prior causes, or laws, and the more fundamental these become, the more foreign to our understanding, or the more god-like, they reveal themselves to be.