(December 31, 2014 at 2:29 pm)watchamadoodle Wrote: Sometimes I see a post by a Christian who seems to know all the information and arguments that led me to atheism, but that person identifies as a Christian. I'm curious about how these people make that work, but if I try to ask questions, I usually get accused of breaking the forum's rules (maybe even blasphemy)
Is anybody aware of a forum with lots of rational Christians where the rules are reasonable? (Atheist forums usually have reasonable rules, but the few Christians who inhabit them are weird - sorry I don't know a nicer way to describe them.)
I have been banned from several Christian forums for doing nothing more than asking legitimate questions and pointing out logical fallacies.
I go out of my way to be as to be as nice as possible, not use any profanity, and not call anyone names. Yet I've been banned for honest discussion.
But as soon as I point out that Kalam CA, the teleological argument, the ontological arguments are flawed, I get banned.
I may try it again when I have some time.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.