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My privilege as a straight, white, cisgender, middle class thin male
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RE: My privilege as a straight, white, cisgender, middle class thin male
(January 2, 2015 at 11:17 pm)Blackout Wrote:
Quote:It is because of the way your statements are formed, you don't say things like "In mainstream porn, often asian women are submissive."
You say things like.
"In porn asian women are always submissive."
By porn I meant mostly mainstream typical porn, not specific fetish porn - I thought that would be easy to understand.
Quote:The latter is invalidated quite easily because of how general the terms you use are and by the massive amounts of porn out there with dominant asian women in.
Yes but it's not mainstream intercourse porn, it's usually BDSM, foot fetish and other kinds of fetishized porn not everyone likes watching as much as common porn. Most males will probably watch intercourse regular porn and not BDSM specifically unless there's a fetish, and the image it creates is one of submission and fetishism with asian women.
Quote:The same goes if you say "In the area I live in, most of the time I'm quite sure I'm not identified by my race, I'm just a standard person identified by my personality."
Then I couldn't argue with you, I'd just assume you're telling the truth.

BUT when you say "Right here are the privileges I got from being white. I'm not identified by my race, I'm just seen as the standard person, whereas other races are seen as the exception."
Such a generalized statement immediately makes me puzzled and I feel the need to question such a statement. I'd want to ask, well how do you know you're never identified by groups of black people as being a white guy? Do you never go to areas where you're the minority race for being white and are more likely to be identified as being white rather than just seen as a standard person?
If these are privileges you get JUST for these things which you didn't choose then it doesn't work because it ceases to be a privilege once you enter an area where white people are no longer in the majority.
Actually no I've never been into such a place - But my point is that it's far more predominant for a black to walk into a white territory than the opposite - If you look at demographics, most if not all western countries are dominated by white population (or white latinos), not black hyspanic or latino or asian - This fact alone makes it more likely for a black to walk into a white urban area and get identified by the colour of his skin, than a black doing the same - Though I've already said it can happen, but even if it happens, it's still preferable to be white due to other factors I've showed you (like chances of imprisonment or the average wage of a black compared to a white) - And considering white families make more money than others, it's more likely a white family will live in a decent urban area and not in a poor one with people of colour where he/she might indeed face racism - I might as well tell you it has happened that to me but not with blacks, rather with gypsies, there's a gipsy neighbourhood in my city - However I also know that that racism towards me is insignificant compared to the stereotypes about gypsies that people (even me) have - Like all of them being criminals, or all of them stabbing people and hate going to school

But your original statement wasn't about likelihood, demographics, statistics, possibilities, how many black people go into an area populated by mainly white people, which race it's preferable to be identified as.

You simply made a statement that because you are white you will not be identified by your skin color like other races are because they are seen as the exceptions , you will just be seen as the standard guy.

I'm saying it's likely you will be considered the exception, and identified by your skin color if you encounter people of other races, which isn't an impossibility if you live in America.

It's like if I said being white means I'm privileged because bulls won't charge at me, don't live on a farm and I've never seen a bull.

Even if you're white and you have never been identified by your race, it isn't BECAUSE of your race, it's just because you haven't encountered races other than white people who do identify you by your race, or been in situations where you are the minority and then been identified for your race.


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RE: My privilege as a straight, white, cisgender, middle class thin male - by paulpablo - January 3, 2015 at 12:18 am

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