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Rational defense of Christianity?
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RE: Rational defense of Christianity?
(January 2, 2015 at 8:29 am)watchamadoodle Wrote:
(January 1, 2015 at 8:16 pm)Drich Wrote: What would be considered to be a blasphemous question?

In my case, I asked if a God might exist that appears to be the Christian God to Christians, Hindu God(s) to Hindus, etc. This would open the possibility that people have true interactions with God in spite of their religions being false. Religious people would simply hear God in their own religious language using the religious vocabulary available.

Apparently that was a scary question, so they deleted my thread and told me I was blaspheming and flaming. I was actually being polite and respectful; they just didn't like my idea IMO.

What if we weren't all supposed to hear God on our terms? What if we were meant to seek Him beyond our comfort zones even if we are Christians?

(January 2, 2015 at 8:34 am)robvalue Wrote: Wow, christians really can't be very secure that what they believe is true if they have to ban people for answering questions.

Then again, that's pretty much what indoctrination is. Questions are bad, I'll scold/hit/kill you.

If my atheism was so weak that I had to run away from theists asking me questions, I'd be pretty embarrassed and would need a rethink.

And what if your beliefs were so strong they could any scrutiny thrown at it? Would you seek out questions where ever they could be asked and answered?

(January 2, 2015 at 8:46 am)Tonus Wrote:
(December 31, 2014 at 11:23 pm)Sillysheep Wrote: I sympathize with you. Unfortunately the churches are full of Christians that don't know who Christ is.
I suspect that they say the same thing, only they're pretty sure that their version is the correct one. And no doubt that some of them have experiences that 'prove' that their version is the one. And that some of them have used 'reason' and 'logic' to determine that their version is the one. And that none of them can corroborate any of this sufficiently to get the rest to abandon their own claims, much less provide the evidence necessary to unite them in one set of beliefs. I just wish that they'd all understand how this looks from the outside.
Quote:I was an embarrassment to Jesus,
You've got plenty of company on that score.

(January 2, 2015 at 1:24 am)Drich Wrote: The tree represents choice. Since the tree was placed in the garden from the beginning, it means God intended that we be given choice.
If god had not placed that tree in the garden, would Adam and Eve have been deprived of a choice to serve or reject god?

Without the knoweledge of sin then there is no rejection of God's word/will.
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Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - December 31, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Silver - December 31, 2014 at 2:31 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by John V - December 31, 2014 at 2:45 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - December 31, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Surgenator - December 31, 2014 at 3:03 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Minimalist - December 31, 2014 at 3:05 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - December 31, 2014 at 3:06 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Natachan - December 31, 2014 at 3:53 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - December 31, 2014 at 4:06 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - December 31, 2014 at 5:20 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Spooky - December 31, 2014 at 8:25 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by abaris - December 31, 2014 at 4:11 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - December 31, 2014 at 5:35 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by abaris - December 31, 2014 at 5:56 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - December 31, 2014 at 6:44 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by vorlon13 - December 31, 2014 at 5:22 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Simon Moon - December 31, 2014 at 5:27 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - December 31, 2014 at 5:32 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by fr0d0 - December 31, 2014 at 7:16 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - December 31, 2014 at 8:18 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by fr0d0 - December 31, 2014 at 9:53 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Silver - December 31, 2014 at 10:01 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - January 1, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by fr0d0 - January 1, 2015 at 7:56 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Silver - January 1, 2015 at 8:01 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by fr0d0 - January 1, 2015 at 8:07 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Silver - January 1, 2015 at 8:10 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - January 2, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by fr0d0 - January 4, 2015 at 5:07 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Mudhammam - January 4, 2015 at 5:32 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Sillysheep - December 31, 2014 at 11:23 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Tonus - January 2, 2015 at 8:46 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by downbeatplumb - January 1, 2015 at 11:54 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Sillysheep - January 1, 2015 at 12:34 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by JuliaL - January 1, 2015 at 12:40 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Sillysheep - January 1, 2015 at 1:01 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by abaris - January 1, 2015 at 1:10 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Nope - January 1, 2015 at 1:07 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Sillysheep - January 1, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Spooky - January 1, 2015 at 1:27 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Sillysheep - January 1, 2015 at 1:37 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by abaris - January 1, 2015 at 1:49 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Sillysheep - January 1, 2015 at 1:58 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Esquilax - January 1, 2015 at 2:01 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Sillysheep - January 1, 2015 at 2:05 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Esquilax - January 1, 2015 at 2:15 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 1, 2015 at 3:07 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Alex K - January 1, 2015 at 1:52 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Spooky - January 1, 2015 at 2:56 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 1, 2015 at 1:30 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Esquilax - January 1, 2015 at 1:54 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - January 1, 2015 at 2:25 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 1, 2015 at 1:14 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by fr0d0 - January 1, 2015 at 8:12 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Silver - January 1, 2015 at 8:18 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by fr0d0 - January 1, 2015 at 8:35 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Silver - January 1, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 1, 2015 at 8:16 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 1, 2015 at 9:03 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 2, 2015 at 1:24 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Whateverist - January 2, 2015 at 1:32 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 2, 2015 at 2:19 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - January 2, 2015 at 8:29 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by abaris - January 2, 2015 at 11:04 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 2:04 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Tonus - January 3, 2015 at 10:43 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 11:07 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by abaris - January 3, 2015 at 11:18 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Silver - January 3, 2015 at 1:16 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Silver - January 3, 2015 at 1:27 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 1:05 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Silver - January 3, 2015 at 1:08 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 1:10 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 1:12 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 1:21 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 1:28 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Silver - January 3, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 2:18 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by abaris - January 3, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 1:19 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Mudhammam - January 3, 2015 at 3:27 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 3:46 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by abaris - January 3, 2015 at 3:54 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Mudhammam - January 3, 2015 at 4:51 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Tonus - January 3, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by fr0d0 - January 1, 2015 at 8:52 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Silver - January 1, 2015 at 9:07 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by fr0d0 - January 1, 2015 at 9:56 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - January 2, 2015 at 10:54 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by psychoslice - January 2, 2015 at 1:35 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Mudhammam - January 2, 2015 at 2:29 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Alex K - January 2, 2015 at 4:49 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Mudhammam - January 2, 2015 at 12:47 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by robvalue - January 2, 2015 at 8:34 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 8:18 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by watchamadoodle - January 3, 2015 at 9:51 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by abaris - January 3, 2015 at 10:09 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by dyresand - January 3, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by robvalue - January 3, 2015 at 11:21 am
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by robvalue - January 3, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 4, 2015 at 10:36 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by robvalue - January 3, 2015 at 1:31 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Drich - January 3, 2015 at 1:33 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by Surgenator - January 3, 2015 at 1:51 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by FreeTony - January 3, 2015 at 2:01 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by vorlon13 - January 3, 2015 at 2:36 pm
RE: Rational defense of Christianity? - by vorlon13 - January 3, 2015 at 4:58 pm

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