She Keeps Sucking The Life Out of Me

[John V]

They obviously changed their mind lol

Yes, people who make their minds up can change them, which is why your position that a man who makes his mind up not to cheat will never cheat and need take no consideration regarding temptation is unrealistic.

Living alone would mean not married and not fucking relevant to the conversation though wouldn't it?

We're discussing a trip away from his wife, so it is relevant - more relevant than your bit about people knowing you'd take ice cream from the freezer.

And getting back to that, it supports my point. A person who wants to maintain a reputation, be it dieting or fidelity, is less likely to cheat on that reputation when it's more likely he'll be caught. A trip away from the spouse reduces the chance of being caught.

I am of the mind that most men are not wild sex crazed beasts.

I probably wouldn't go that far, either, but men do think about sex an awful lot, and negative consequences to cheating are a barrier to cheating.

I do not believe it is any more difficult for a man to resist the urge to cheat than it is for a woman. (Yes, we like fucking orgasms too. Many aren't as open about it as I am and in a society that tells men that women don't care about sex I would say it's even more difficult for a woman to resist the urge to cheat because she has a higher probability of not being sexually satisfied by her partner, but then I'm going off on a rant that isn't technically relevant).

We've been discussing things from the POV of the husband. Yes, married women should also avoid situations of temptation.

I do not believe that being exposed to the opportunity to cheat makes a person more likely to cheat.

I know, and that's why your position is stupid.

I still haven't seen you present any evidence of this besides from I've seen many men blah blah blah.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/14...63225.html
Business travel often provides a cheating spouse the perfect cover for an extramarital affair. They are the most common settings for infidelity, according to “The Normal Bar” by Chrisanna Northrup, Pepper Schwartz and James Witte; 36 percent of men and 13 percent of women told the authors that they gave into temptation while on a business trip — even if they said they were happily married. An out-of-town trip can allow a cheating spouse the luxury of conducting his or her affair in a location that's far from the sight of prying eyes.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/22...83371.html
According to data collected from The Normal Bar, 33% of men and 19% of women admitted to being unfaithful... But many of the individuals polled stressed that frequency of sexual infidelity matters. And there is a big difference between a single one-night stand in the course of a twenty-year marriage and a regular pattern of sexual affairs. Seventeen percent of the women who’d been sexually unfaithful and 23% of the men said it happened only once; and 36% of women and 33% of men said it happened two to five times. But that left more than 40% of unfaithful men and women who had to admit that it happened on more of a consistent basis!

The 40% of cheaters who are consistently unfaithful are your cheaters gonna cheat group, and I agree that they'll find ways to cheat. However, the rest - and particularly the one in 5 who only cheated once - would likely have benefited by reducing temptation.

Have you ever heard of a married person contacting an old flame and ending up in an affair? Same thing. Avoid temptation, because people can fail despite initial good intentions.

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I'm going to do that regardless Alpha. It's not as though I have to choose.

On any particular night you do. Women generally aren't giving up their best to husbands who come home boozy from a strip club.

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Calling that male sexuality is nonsense. Call it what it is: thoughtless, selfish sexuality on the part of men who have made a solemn promise. It is not limited to men, nor is it universal amongst men.

I've never cheated in an exclusive relationship, and I never will. And it doesn't matter what she looks like, what she's dressed in, or if anyone will ever find out.

Oh, and I'm male.

Settle down, son, I'm just talking probabilities. As noted above, one study found that nearly three times more men than women cheated on business trips. But no, I'm not suggesting that every man has an affair once he reaches X miles away from his wife.

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@Losty: Here's an interesting article. Studies show that executive control (their term for making up your mind) is not absolute, as you suggest, but rather is a limited resource which is affected by stress and temptation.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/scott-barr...58102.html
Therefore, executive control may play a role in cheating behaviors. If your long-term goal is to stay committed to your partner, and you've got a heck of a lot of temptation, this requires a heck of a lot of executive control. Executive control may also help people avoid situations in the first place where they may experience the lure of attractive potential partners.