RE: How powerful is god?
January 8, 2015 at 4:42 am
(This post was last modified: January 8, 2015 at 4:49 am by robvalue.)
It's a lot quicker to say yes or no than it is to explain why you don't have to tell us which answer you hold true.
Come on religious guys, you need to choose. Step up to the plate. Here are your options:
1) God is omniscient, therefor we have no free will. He knows everything we will ever do, so we cannot choose to do otherwise.
2) We have free will, therefor God is not omniscient. If we have a free choice, that means it's impossible anyone or anything can predict what we will do. If they can, we are instead entirely predictable and there was never any choice.
Can't have it both ways. The nearest you can come is this "God knows everything that is logically true" bullshit. So you can have that for free if you choose answer 2. But time to take some ownership, which is it?
There is option 3 of course, which is that you don't care if your beliefs are true or even make sense. It's a valid choice and I'll accept it as an answer.
Scream false dichotomy if you want, but you better have a good logical argument if you want me to take you seriously.
Come on religious guys, you need to choose. Step up to the plate. Here are your options:
1) God is omniscient, therefor we have no free will. He knows everything we will ever do, so we cannot choose to do otherwise.
2) We have free will, therefor God is not omniscient. If we have a free choice, that means it's impossible anyone or anything can predict what we will do. If they can, we are instead entirely predictable and there was never any choice.
Can't have it both ways. The nearest you can come is this "God knows everything that is logically true" bullshit. So you can have that for free if you choose answer 2. But time to take some ownership, which is it?
There is option 3 of course, which is that you don't care if your beliefs are true or even make sense. It's a valid choice and I'll accept it as an answer.
Scream false dichotomy if you want, but you better have a good logical argument if you want me to take you seriously.
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