RE: Can you make a God claim?
January 10, 2015 at 5:15 pm
(This post was last modified: January 10, 2015 at 5:17 pm by fr0d0.)
(January 10, 2015 at 4:41 pm)Nope Wrote:(January 10, 2015 at 4:30 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You can't reasonably conceive that those are true. The difference.
Why not? If someone had heard the Christian story for the first time, it would sound as crazy as what IATA writes.
I think that I have what robo wanted.
Humans seek out patterns in everything. How many times have you looked up in the sky and noted that clouds form figures? The need to find a reason for a bigger purpose in life was implanted in us by a deity and is based on our need to find patterns. We naturally try and find pattern in the events in our life because god wants us to find him/her/it. You can test human need to find patterns.
Note: I am not arguing for the existence of god but I'd like to hear some argument that didn't also make possible the existence of fairies and goblins.
Because they don't have any actual logical coherence next to the claim of Gods logical existence as pointed out above.
The suggestion that only the material exists is actually idiotic.
If someone heard the story without the first understanding of what it was saying, yes, they wouldn't get it. Not that it's difficult to understand. 3 year olds can get it.
Logically consistent theory that accounts for theoretical physics, pure maths etc, can all be dismissed as pattern finding irrelevance? Bull shit.
(January 10, 2015 at 4:51 pm)robvalue Wrote: You're exactly right, arguing for something utterly undetectable is usually the same as arguing for anything that is undetectable. You can't detect the difference because...
Exactly. There is no way to differentiate either thing that has no material presence. And??