RE: My privilege as a straight, white, cisgender, middle class thin male
January 13, 2015 at 9:01 pm
(This post was last modified: January 13, 2015 at 9:03 pm by Dystopia.)
(January 13, 2015 at 8:11 pm)Davka Wrote: There's another way to look at this: If you had the choice to be born into any group you chose, what would you go for?This is a very good point. Regarding male I'd actually chose it because on average I'll make more money and because my chances of getting raped or suffering domestic violence outside of jail are lower. And gender double standards.
Most people would agree that White is a good idea, it's just easier.
American? Yeah, or maybe Canadian if you don't mind the cold.
Wealthy? No-brainer. Middle-class at the very least.
Cisgendered? Well, duh! Who wouldn't want to be comfortable in their own skin?
Straight? Again, it's just easier.
Thin? Another no-brainer.
Male? Might get a little pushback on this, but seriously - do you really want to deal with pregnancy and menstrual periods? Not to mention all the societal crap.
Only by growing dreads and playing street music do I have the tiniest shot at getting my fair share of abuse.
But very good point, I had never thought of it like this.
(January 13, 2015 at 8:38 pm)Roxy904 Wrote:(December 27, 2014 at 2:26 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: The only reason privilege are ever mentioned is to guilt trip people and make them feel bad and make the accuser seem like they know what they are talking about. You can't change your privlildges and bringing them up adds nothing to the conversation but to discredit you and imply that your opinion isn't as valid. You're a man, so you can't talk about abortion. You're white, so you can't talk about racism. You're straight, so you can't talk about homosexuality. You're cis so you can't talk about gender disphoria. You're rich so you can't talk about poverty.
I have no problem with most of your statement, but I would like to make a point. You can talk about something, even if you are not what you're talking about. However, if you're white, you haven't experienced racial discrimination against a black person, even if you have witnessed discrimination or if you haven't. Example: if someone's purse had been stolen, and you had witnessesed it happen, that doesn't mean you know what it feels like to have your purse stolen. I hope I've made sense.
The problem with the original quote is that it says that privilege is used to make the other part feel guilty when it's not. Simply saying "check your privilege" is a derail technique, but explaining why a certain group has privilege and providing evidence, like i.e. the number of black people shot by the police while unarmed, is perfectly valid. People need to be open to talk about privilege and not make assumptions. And privilege can be changed, it just takes a little effort specially from those who have it.
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you