RE: He May As Well Fuck With Their Heads
January 19, 2015 at 8:33 pm
(This post was last modified: January 19, 2015 at 9:18 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
I'm an unapologetic cynic...what can I say? I did my time for a transfer and I would never tell a person not to go....I just like to help people set realistic expectations for the investment. If you're committed enough to spend two years, do the extra two. I offer this advice as someone who didn't follow it, btw, I'm an engineering washout. Hindsight, lol.
(where I'm from, all of those positions listed for tech programs are crewed by highschool dropouts, btw - as I understand it, other places have higher standards...in which case..gotta get that cert, eh - but those certs can be and often are cheaper elsewhere-? Neither CC nor the tech programs have any value beyond the goal that they are required to achieve, and it is a bit of a dicking, to pay for that in this...-the best country in the world, period-. A 4 yr is marketable no matter what -and might be worth paying for even with no specific goal in mind. Then again...soooo many BA's, and isn't that what makes an AA worth less and less?)
Let me put this a different way. When wages stagnate but tuition continues it's inexorable march upward - that's a racket. It might be an unavoidable racket, it might be the best option available.......it's still a racket. I'm not detracting from what anyone's son has done, or what anyone has done themselves - we make the best of our situations and that's awesome.......but that doesn't change whether or not it's turned into a racket. We're paying more and more for something that is worth progressively less and less. At some point, you have to weigh your investment against other options (and even for the poorest of us, if you have tuition money you have options..even if it's loaned money). I get a better return on strawberries than my peers who finished their programs (accounting for our relative level of debt, the majority of which is shared between us - I went out of pocket too) - just for flavor, and now...when I'm not doing that...I'm -managing- engineering grads. I think our ed system is failing us, personally. I don't lay that on the people who seek the degrees or the certs - they are, to some extent, being sold a bill of goods in this current economy. If a person knows what they want and they know what they're getting into, a dry appraisal, awesome. It simply hasn't been my experience that this is a good description of an 18yr old degree seeker. Those life sized posters at the CC depicting AA's as guys in stiff shirts doing easy work for "good life money" - that shit is ad copy.
(where I'm from, all of those positions listed for tech programs are crewed by highschool dropouts, btw - as I understand it, other places have higher standards...in which case..gotta get that cert, eh - but those certs can be and often are cheaper elsewhere-? Neither CC nor the tech programs have any value beyond the goal that they are required to achieve, and it is a bit of a dicking, to pay for that in this...-the best country in the world, period-. A 4 yr is marketable no matter what -and might be worth paying for even with no specific goal in mind. Then again...soooo many BA's, and isn't that what makes an AA worth less and less?)
Let me put this a different way. When wages stagnate but tuition continues it's inexorable march upward - that's a racket. It might be an unavoidable racket, it might be the best option available.......it's still a racket. I'm not detracting from what anyone's son has done, or what anyone has done themselves - we make the best of our situations and that's awesome.......but that doesn't change whether or not it's turned into a racket. We're paying more and more for something that is worth progressively less and less. At some point, you have to weigh your investment against other options (and even for the poorest of us, if you have tuition money you have options..even if it's loaned money). I get a better return on strawberries than my peers who finished their programs (accounting for our relative level of debt, the majority of which is shared between us - I went out of pocket too) - just for flavor, and now...when I'm not doing that...I'm -managing- engineering grads. I think our ed system is failing us, personally. I don't lay that on the people who seek the degrees or the certs - they are, to some extent, being sold a bill of goods in this current economy. If a person knows what they want and they know what they're getting into, a dry appraisal, awesome. It simply hasn't been my experience that this is a good description of an 18yr old degree seeker. Those life sized posters at the CC depicting AA's as guys in stiff shirts doing easy work for "good life money" - that shit is ad copy.
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