Evidence God Exists: Part II

[Thor]

I’m not one of those Christians who think every single thing we see around us necessarily points towards the existence of God. However, there are certain things which definitely posses a quality of intelligent design. Besides what I’ve mentioned in my threads, here are some other examples…

Oh, boy... here we go!

Fire: Fire is crucial to man, .

So the rapid oxidation of material which gives off energy in the form of heat and light "possesses a quality of intelligent design"? Setting that bar awfully low, aren't you? I suppose the wind must also possess a quality of intelligent design...

and only man uses fire.

Not true. There are certain plants that need fire to activate their seeds so they germinate.

It has been essential for the development of our species.

And this proves.....?

I challenge anyone to name any other species that exclusively uses an element of nature.

Pretty much every species uses elements of nature. Bats live in caves. Does this mean caves were produced by "intelligent design"? Many types of bugs like to live under rocks. Are rocks products of "intelligent design"? There are certain creatures that survive in the deep ocean by living in the vicinity of hydrothermal vents. Are hydrothermal vents products of "intelligent design"?

The fact that water destroys fire is another clue.

That bar just keeps getting lower and lower....

While fire is so destructive, it was so instrumental to man that we had no choice but to utilize it. But we needed a way to control it.

So "God" gave us water?

Yeesh....

Water is such a way.

As is throwing dirt on a fire...

It is a gentle, everyday mineral,

Water is a mineral? Where did you go to school?

and yet it so easily extinguishes such a destructive force of nature.

Ever try extinguishing a grease fire or a chemical fire with water? How about an oil fire?

Can you think of any other ‘everyday’ mineral which can easily destroy or put out another force of nature?

Again, water is not a mineral. But since you asked... salt is quite capable of easily destroying bacteria. And it's a mineral, too!

Smoke: Again, fire has been a necessity for the survival of man, and yet it is so dangerous and destructive. Without smoke fire would creep up and destroy people and their resources. The fact that there is smoke, and the pungent smell of smoke, shows that we were intelligently provided with fire as a tool, though there’s a built in mechanism meant to be a warning system.

This paragraph is so unbelievably ridiculous that I can't believe anyone would utter it in an attempt to demonstrate "intelligent design". Without smoke, "fire would creep up and destroy people"? Are you kidding me? What usually kills people in a fire? IT'S NOT THE FIRE! It is smoke inhalation! So, your "intelligent designer" provided us with a "warning system" that kills us! Some intelligence!

There's a mind behind the set of rules by which fire, smoke and water relate to one another.

Any evidence for this absurd statement?

Medicinal Plants and Herbs: There is a plant or herb pretty much for every ailment out there.

Really? Show me the plant that cures cancer. Or macular degeneration. Or Parkinson's Disease. Or muscular dystrophy. Or Down's Syndrome. Or diabetes. Or cystic fibrosis. Etc, etc....

Some medicines today are still manufactured using plants or herbs, at least in part. Banana skins alone have a powerful antioxidant and strong healing benefits. Looking at this from an angle open to intelligent design, you can see how someone might be looking out for us.

Someone is "looking out for us" because we have discovered how to use certain plants to remedy some ailments? Then explain to me why this intelligent being gave us edible mushrooms and deadly poisonous mushrooms, and made it very difficult to tell them apart.

Jet Stream: The jet stream is a complex maze in the ocean.

The jet stream is in the OCEAN? Your high school called. They want their diploma back.

Bananas: If you observe how apes and certain natives and people peel bananas, you will have a clearer understanding of the following. Bananas have a handle at one end, which is how most people peel bananas. However, peeling it this way can sometimes mush the banana at that end and can be awkward. But if you peel the banana by pressing on the opposite tip and peeling from that end, you’ll end up with a perfect banana. There’s no reason for the banana’s survival as a species to have developed such a tip. It looks like someone out there has provided a means to easily peel the world’s most popular fruit without mangling the inside.

Are you related to Ray Comfort? And you do realize that the bananas we have today are the result of human cultivation? The bananas that existed a few hundred years ago look nothing like the banana you get in the grocery store.

Coconut: This fruit has a hard shell. But each coconut has three circular indentations, resembling the holes of a bowling ball, which have softer textures. Have we been provided a way to get to the juice of this fruit, which has a hard outer shell?

Now explain avocados, walnuts and prickly pears.

Guitar calluses: I play guitar, and I was thinking about the calluses one develops on the fingers after playing for a while. For those of you who are not musicians, when a person first plays guitar, the strings hurt the fingers. But after a few weeks, guitarists develop calluses on the tips of their fingers, which protect their fingers from the strings, and it no longer hurts to play.

Your body reacts to a stimulus and you think this is evidence of "intelligent design"? Then explain goosebumps. They serve no function, yet we get them when we're cold. Why would that be if some intelligent being is responsible for calluses?

Is someone out there enabling us to play an instrument?

No.

These are just a few examples. They are things that when I gave it some thought I said "Wow, there's someone behind this work."

So you look at things in nature and conclude that it must be the work of an intelligent creator? Wow.

Atheists love to point to things such as world starvation, and the death of the innocent, using these examples to demonstrate there’s no God.

And you haven't refuted any of that.

I’m employing the same principles in reverse, by pointing to things that have the quality of intelligent design.

Gee... bananas, fire, smoke, medicinal plants... yeah, I'm convinced...