(August 11, 2010 at 12:04 am)RAD Wrote: Huh? These are atheist arguments that clearly demonstrate two contradictory assertions or conclusions. Hence at least one is irrational, (or both in some cases, being both logical fallacies)
Individually, each of the argements do not violate a logical fallacy, but assuming each pair of arguements is attempting to make the same point, then they are certainly contradictory. My point is that none of the arguements seem to be attempting to make the same point - particularly considering that the theist ideas of god and the bible are as variable as the individual and and the atheist arguements against them have to compensate for those off-kilter ideas.
Eh.. basically I'm saying that it's very easy to make those arguements seem contradictory when taken out of context, which is what seems to have happened.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
