Oklahoma Republican wants to make secular marriage impossible.

[Huggy Bear]

So why the surprise if a document invented in order discriminate, is still used to discriminate? And why would you want such a document?

I don't really care what they were used for in the past, nor is that relevant to the issue at hand; if we recognize that discrimination is bad, then the fact that something used to have a discriminatory purpose is no reason to allow it to keep that purpose. Why is it that so many of your positions seem to boil down to "two wrongs make a right."?

You still don't get it, my point was the marriage license should be abolished, especially because of it's history of discrimination.

My point in bringing up common law marriages was to show that at one point in (America) time, marriage licenses weren't required, and even now, like 9 states still recognize common law marriage. So the question is, why is something that is a basic human right (you know, the whole life, liberty and pursuit of happiness thing), being made into a privilege by the government?

If anyone can reasonably obtain the license, then it's hardly a privilege one has to strive for. It's only the discriminatory practices exemplified in my link that makes this difficult; it took me all of twenty minutes to obtain my own marriage license.

there's a difference.
First of all you're Australian, second, there is already a precedent set here proving that the marriage license in not needed. Giving up freedoms "just because" doesn't sit well with me.

Not only that, if you acknowledge that marriage is a privilege then you agree that it is

priv·i·lege
ˈpriv(ə)lij/
noun
noun: privilege; plural noun: privileges

1. a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group of people

You complain about constantly having to explain things to us, but you've apparently missed that this is about secular marriage in general, not gay marriage in particular.

So you made no mention of gays?