Evidence God Exists: Part II

[AngelThMan]

I challenge anyone to name any other species that exclusively uses an element of nature.

Pretty much every species uses elements of nature. Bats live in caves. Does this mean caves were produced by "intelligent design"? Many types of bugs like to live under rocks. Are rocks products of "intelligent design"? There are certain creatures that survive in the deep ocean by living in the vicinity of hydrothermal vents. Are hydrothermal vents products of "intelligent design"?

You're making fun of my text, and implying I lack education, and made the quip that my high school wants my diplomat back. And yet you don't know what the word exclusive means, which I bolded so that people didn't miss it. All the examples you give above are of species that use elements of nature, but not exclusively. Meaning no other species uses that same element of nature.

While fire is so destructive, it was so instrumental to man that we had no choice but to utilize it. But we needed a way to control it.

So "God" gave us water?

Uhmm...yes. I'm a believer, remember? Is this a smart question to ask?

Water has many uses for us, but in the context of my post, I'm saying that God made fire controllable by water.

Water is such a way.

As is throwing dirt on a fire...

That's another way. What exactly are you proving here? Did I say water is the only thing that puts out a fire? It isn't, but water is the most powerful combatant of fire.

It is a gentle, everyday mineral,

Water is a mineral? Where did you go to school?

You're right. Water is not a mineral. The word meant to be used here was 'substance.' It was a mix up as I was writing the text at 3 am when I was very tired. To all: please globally replace the word mineral in my post with substance.

and yet it so easily extinguishes such a destructive force of nature.

Ever try extinguishing a grease fire or a chemical fire with water? How about an oil fire?

This is so dumb I won't even address it. Okay, maybe I will. Oil is a fire accelerant, so of course adding that to the mix will make the fire more difficult to contain. But the best weapon is still water. If water didn't put out fire, imagine the pickle we'd be in. (Btw: pickles have medicinal values as well.)

Can you think of any other ‘everyday’ mineral which can easily destroy or put out another force of nature?

Again, water is not a mineral. But since you asked... salt is quite capable of easily destroying bacteria. And it's a mineral, too!

'Capable' and 'works every time' are two different things and you know it.

Smoke: Again, fire has been a necessity for the survival of man, and yet it is so dangerous and destructive. Without smoke fire would creep up and destroy people and their resources. The fact that there is smoke, and the pungent smell of smoke, shows that we were intelligently provided with fire as a tool, though there’s a built in mechanism meant to be a warning system.

This paragraph is so unbelievably ridiculous that I can't believe anyone would utter it in an attempt to demonstrate "intelligent design". Without smoke, "fire would creep up and destroy people"? Are you kidding me? What usually kills people in a fire? IT'S NOT THE FIRE! It is smoke inhalation!

Now you're turning into a PSA.

So, your "intelligent designer" provided us with a "warning system" that kills us! Some intelligence!

Water can kill us, and yet it has other crucial benefits. The inhalation of smoke in enclosed environments can be fatal, but now you're talking about fires that have raged out of control, or situations in which people have been trapped or foolishly remained indoors too long, etc. But all this is entirely a different issue. If you're going to paint these types of scenarios, then I can just as easily add face masks, or techniques such as laying low to the ground to avoid inhalation, which are considered very effective. But this whole thing is a different subject. What I was trying to point out is that when a fire is starting or approaching us, smoke serves as a warning that gives us time to act and either run or try to locate and put out the fire. Fire itself is more destructive and devastating than smoke.

Medicinal Plants and Herbs: There is a plant or herb pretty much for every ailment out there.

Really? Show me the plant that cures cancer. Or macular degeneration. Or Parkinson's Disease. Or muscular dystrophy. Or Down's Syndrome. Or diabetes. Or cystic fibrosis. Etc, etc....

Have you ever heard of antioxidants, which help treat or prevent cancer and some of the other diseases you have mentioned? You also have to consider that not all the medicinal benefits of plants and herbs have been discovered. But you're missing the point. There's no reason, for the survival of its species, for bananas to evolutionarily develop a powerful antioxidant in its skin which has health benefits and is curative to man.

Some medicines today are still manufactured using plants or herbs, at least in part. Banana skins alone have a powerful antioxidant and strong healing benefits. Looking at this from an angle open to intelligent design, you can see how someone might be looking out for us.

Someone is "looking out for us" because we have discovered how to use certain plants to remedy some ailments? Then explain to me why this intelligent being gave us edible mushrooms and deadly poisonous mushrooms, and made it very difficult to tell them apart.

I don't know. That's the problem with atheists. They want to know everything right now, despite the fact we've been told and it has been written that certain mysteries will be revealed to us later.

Jet Stream: The jet stream is a complex maze in the ocean.

The jet stream is in the OCEAN? Your high school called. They want their diploma back.

Thor is correct. I meant to say ocean current, such as the Gulf Stream, and mixed it all up writing late night. We all mix up words and terms sometimes, so let's not be as condescending as Thor was. To all: Please substitute 'jet stream' in my post with 'ocean current.'

Bananas: If you observe how apes and certain natives and people peel bananas, you will have a clearer understanding of the following. Bananas have a handle at one end, which is how most people peel bananas. However, peeling it this way can sometimes mush the banana at that end and can be awkward. But if you peel the banana by pressing on the opposite tip and peeling from that end, you’ll end up with a perfect banana. There’s no reason for the banana’s survival as a species to have developed such a tip. It looks like someone out there has provided a means to easily peel the world’s most popular fruit without mangling the inside.

Are you related to Ray Comfort? And you do realize that the bananas we have today are the result of human cultivation? The bananas that existed a few hundred years ago look nothing like the banana you get in the grocery store.

It doesn't matter. If Ray Comfort succumbed to this atheist argument, supposedly apologizing for his claim, well that's him, but it has nothing to do with me or my views. If I can believe in evolution as God's tool, then I can just as easily assert that hybridization is also God's tool, and he made it possible and gave us the intelligence to carry it out. What's important is how the banana ended up today, not what it was hundreds of years ago. And besides, bananas always had the tip I described on one end, making it easier to peel.