RE: Idealism is more Rational than Materialism
February 2, 2015 at 3:59 am
(This post was last modified: February 2, 2015 at 4:00 am by Rational AKD.)
(February 2, 2015 at 3:32 am)Alex K Wrote: Sorry, that's not even English. What do you mean, a whirlpool interacts on water. Are you saying that consciousness is indeed a result of brain function just as a whirlpool is a configuration of water?perhaps I did not use the best words. I meant to say there is an interaction between the whirlpool and water. in the analogy, the whirlpool is representative of the brain and the water is representative of mind. mind produces brain even though interaction done upon brain can cause changes in mind.
(February 2, 2015 at 3:32 am)Alex K Wrote: A whirlpool is a name we give to a certain configuration of water.and the brain is a certain configuration of mind, the image localization within the apparent physical world to be more specific.
(February 2, 2015 at 3:32 am)Alex K Wrote: In your analogy, consciousness is a name we give to certain configurations of the brain.you have it backwards. water represents mind and the whirlpool represents brain in the analogy. brain is a certain configuration of mind.
(February 2, 2015 at 3:32 am)Alex K Wrote: By needlessly postulating a separate mind, and a mind brain interaction, you violate Occam's razor in such an extreme way that you lose the entire argument.I do not postulate a "separate mind." the mind I am referring to is our own consciousness as already proven to be real by René Descartes and that everything including the brain is derived from consciousness. it is you that postulate unnecessarily the existence of material, a substance distinct from consciousness even though consciousness is the most fundamental part of our experience. you assert material or physicality is most fundamental even though it is proven by Cartesian Skepticism that you can doubt the existence of material but you cannot doubt the existence of consciousness.
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them.
-Galileo
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