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Contradictions in "rational" thought
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RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought
(August 12, 2010 at 10:33 am)RAD Wrote:
(August 12, 2010 at 10:20 am)tavarish Wrote: Which is why context is important. My arguments are also standalone arguments, but when put together, they can SEEM contradictory when you take them in the same context.

No. Context isn't necessary for your statements either. Your statements can both be true because one refers to the character of a nonexistent (we all know) movie character who (we all know) doesn't exist.

How is context not necessary? If taken within the same context, the assertions are contradictory. You cannot be a malevolent leader and not exist at the same time - it's logically impossible.

However, if Vader exists within the context of a fictitious movie plot, and does not exist in demonstrable reality, then no contradiction is made.

Keep in mind you're making an appeal to popularity. "We all know" does not necessarily have any merit in trying to make sense of an argument, nor does it have any explanatory value. Darth Vader isn't fictitious because "we all know" he doesn't exist. He's fictitious because there hasn't been any evidence to suggest that he's real, but there is a mountain of evidence to suggest that he's a conjured character.

If you want to continue this conversation, please tell me where specifically anyone made the arguments you first presented within the same context.


(August 13, 2010 at 12:45 am)RAD Wrote: Should I take your red herring as an admission of defeat?

LOL.

You should consider your own arguments before criticizing others.
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Contradictions in "rational" thought - by RAD - August 10, 2010 at 11:12 pm
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by RAD - August 11, 2010 at 12:04 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by Zen Badger - August 11, 2010 at 5:32 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by Tiberius - August 11, 2010 at 6:10 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by Eilonnwy - August 11, 2010 at 8:21 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by Darwinian - August 11, 2010 at 10:45 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by Welsh cake - August 11, 2010 at 11:31 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by tavarish - August 11, 2010 at 12:59 pm
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by RAD - August 11, 2010 at 10:46 pm
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by tavarish - August 12, 2010 at 10:20 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by RAD - August 12, 2010 at 10:33 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by downbeatplumb - August 12, 2010 at 11:16 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by tavarish - August 13, 2010 at 3:06 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by Eilonnwy - August 13, 2010 at 10:19 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by Minimalist - August 11, 2010 at 1:43 pm
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by Cego_Colher - August 11, 2010 at 10:55 pm
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by RAD - August 13, 2010 at 12:45 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by Tiberius - August 13, 2010 at 5:11 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by RAD - August 13, 2010 at 10:17 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by Tiberius - August 13, 2010 at 4:45 pm
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by RAD - August 15, 2010 at 2:52 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by RAD - August 15, 2010 at 2:40 pm
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by RAD - August 15, 2010 at 10:40 pm
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by Zen Badger - August 16, 2010 at 10:27 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by RAD - August 17, 2010 at 12:18 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by KichigaiNeko - August 17, 2010 at 1:55 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by Zen Badger - August 17, 2010 at 11:08 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by Rhizomorph13 - August 17, 2010 at 4:06 pm
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by Rwandrall - August 19, 2010 at 7:04 pm
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by RAD - August 19, 2010 at 10:28 pm
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by ABierman1986 - August 19, 2010 at 10:49 pm
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by padraic - August 19, 2010 at 11:09 pm
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by RAD - August 21, 2010 at 11:51 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2010 at 12:23 pm
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by Gfailure - August 21, 2010 at 7:17 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by RAD - August 22, 2010 at 12:18 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by Edwardo Piet - August 21, 2010 at 6:20 pm
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by padraic - August 22, 2010 at 1:29 am
RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought - by RAD - August 22, 2010 at 11:43 am

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