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What is gods fundamental nature?
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RE: What is gods fundamental nature?
(August 13, 2010 at 1:10 pm)theophilus Wrote:
(August 12, 2010 at 2:50 pm)Captain Scarlet Wrote: You have failed to address my point if a being exists outside of time he is by definition in stasis and cannot act. If a being is in time and can act he is in the universe and not infinite and not god. Which is it?
Since we have no experience of existing outside of time then we can't know what is possible or impossible in that state.
So we could take 2 approaches. On the one hand we could say that whilst we cannot know we can draw the conclusion that god is in stasis and therefore cannot act. All our inferences based on analogies would get us to that position. Or we can say, as you have done, that we cannot hope to draw analogies as this is mysterious to us. The problem with the second approach is that it undermines classical arguments for god like the cosmological argument and arguments from design which do exactly what you say we can't do and infer god from analogies in our universe eg: things that begin to exist have a cause and that apparent design in the universe is evidence for god much like analogies with human design on earth (there are of course more complicated versions). The problem for the theistic view is that both approaches weaken your case.
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What is gods fundamental nature? - by Captain Scarlet - August 11, 2010 at 5:05 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by theophilus - August 12, 2010 at 1:17 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by Captain Scarlet - August 12, 2010 at 2:50 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by Zen Badger - August 13, 2010 at 6:05 am
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by theophilus - August 13, 2010 at 1:10 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by Captain Scarlet - August 13, 2010 at 1:39 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by Zen Badger - August 14, 2010 at 7:54 am
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by theophilus - August 14, 2010 at 11:20 am
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by downbeatplumb - August 12, 2010 at 1:57 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by annatar - August 12, 2010 at 2:08 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by Nitsuj - August 12, 2010 at 10:57 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by padraic - August 12, 2010 at 11:10 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by tackattack - August 13, 2010 at 12:20 am
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by Captain Scarlet - August 13, 2010 at 3:29 am
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by tackattack - August 13, 2010 at 4:08 am
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by KichigaiNeko - August 13, 2010 at 6:14 am
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by Minimalist - August 14, 2010 at 11:07 am
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by Captain Scarlet - August 14, 2010 at 12:26 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by Edwardo Piet - August 14, 2010 at 2:49 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by Peter44 - August 14, 2010 at 3:00 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by Watson - August 14, 2010 at 3:12 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by Peter44 - August 14, 2010 at 3:23 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by Watson - August 14, 2010 at 3:28 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by fr0d0 - August 15, 2010 at 3:23 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by Captain Scarlet - August 15, 2010 at 3:32 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by fr0d0 - August 15, 2010 at 4:30 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by Captain Scarlet - August 15, 2010 at 5:48 pm
RE: What is gods fundamental nature? - by fr0d0 - August 15, 2010 at 7:56 pm

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