RE: A strange but curious question: if you had a time machine...
February 10, 2015 at 1:16 am
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2015 at 1:18 am by vorlon13.)
Topic raises a larger question of how, for instance, Nostradamus 'viewed' the future. Hovering over the earth's surface at 500' altitude isn't going to give him the information he needs to accurately generate a quatrain. Nor will walking around at random work either; if he is wandering the streets of Bombay on the day of Lincoln's assassination, that isn't going to be very helpful. He needs a mechanism or guide of some kind to home in on those events. How does he figure out the correct day and hour to be in Sarajevo to see Archduke Ferdinand shot, and how does he know it's important at the time with out also experiencing, somehow, the next several years? Archduke Ferdinand, for all Nostradamus knows at the time, might be on his way to a masquerade ball.
So to, with Jesus, for instance.
When are you going back ? You'll need to study Jewish lunar calendars for possibly 20 years to get target dates, and then to be sure, you're going to have to watch ALL of the crucifixions around ALL those dates, and somehow, discern (without knowing the languages you can hear, or being able to read the words you see) what the fuck is going on and who is doing it, and to whom they are doing it to. You will have to evaluate ALL the crucifixions and see if even one is remotely close in particulars to the one you're interested in. You're going to be back then for a LENGTHY and frustrating visit.
If Jesus is a composite character, based a % on a real person(s) and derived a % from historical persons and extrapolated from a % of expected characteristics of a 'plausible' messiah, you're still going to have to convince all of us when you get back that you snagged the RIGHT one, and that that one is in fact, consistent with Jewish prophecy (something bible Jesus isn't fully noted as being, btw) and then you are somehow going to have to extrapolate from the stiff on the cross you picked from all the candidates you examined, that he somehow confirms the god (and holy spook) you are expecting to find, and convince us of that too, somehow.
So to, with Jesus, for instance.
When are you going back ? You'll need to study Jewish lunar calendars for possibly 20 years to get target dates, and then to be sure, you're going to have to watch ALL of the crucifixions around ALL those dates, and somehow, discern (without knowing the languages you can hear, or being able to read the words you see) what the fuck is going on and who is doing it, and to whom they are doing it to. You will have to evaluate ALL the crucifixions and see if even one is remotely close in particulars to the one you're interested in. You're going to be back then for a LENGTHY and frustrating visit.
If Jesus is a composite character, based a % on a real person(s) and derived a % from historical persons and extrapolated from a % of expected characteristics of a 'plausible' messiah, you're still going to have to convince all of us when you get back that you snagged the RIGHT one, and that that one is in fact, consistent with Jewish prophecy (something bible Jesus isn't fully noted as being, btw) and then you are somehow going to have to extrapolate from the stiff on the cross you picked from all the candidates you examined, that he somehow confirms the god (and holy spook) you are expecting to find, and convince us of that too, somehow.
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