RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought
August 15, 2010 at 10:40 pm
(This post was last modified: August 15, 2010 at 10:51 pm by RAD.)
(August 15, 2010 at 6:30 pm)The Omnissiunt One Wrote: Okay, let's deal with these so-called contradictions:
Quote:Contradiction #1
Argument A: What makes you think the God of a univrse would care about a little speck like you? Don't be arrogant
Argument B: Why doesn't your God show himself to us and stop evil?
The first is saying that it is arrogant to suppose that a creator would care for us. The second is saying that, given what Christians believe about God, he should stop evil.
No you can't do that because the first also depends on the belief there is a God also. Besides we've already had two people recognize the contradiction and say one is wrong. (Which means they still don't get it)
Quote:Quote:Contradiction #2
Argument A: Your God is too intolerant
Argument B: Your God saves an awful lot of stupid, arrogant people.
First one is self-explanatory. Second one, though I've never heard it myself, presumably means that God could save better people than those he does.
It's clearly implied by a thousand atheist comments about how stupid and arrogant Christians are.
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Argument A: Christians are so divided, I can't figure out which denomination is right
Argument B: Christians should think for themselves
First one says that, even if we accept Christianity (which atheists clearly don't), how do you decide which denomination to follow? Second one says that Christians shouldn't follow the teaching of any church or holy book. Got that?
No, the contradiction holds up because the denominations and disagreements prove some Christians do indeed think for themselves. I see what you are arguing, that if they could think for themselves, they would automatically reject any holy book. But then you get into whether Bacon, Newton and Locke could think for themselves, which would be rather foolish and anything you say would sound merely subjective.
(August 15, 2010 at 8:08 pm)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote: So you've managed to determine that I've contradicted myself because an atheist that wasn't me argued the opposite thing that I just did?
No I never said that. If you were following the thread you would see that all I have claimed is that if one atheist is contradicting another, then one is irrational. Sheesh, how many times do I have to say that?
Quote:How very convenient that you can't deign yourself to answer any of my points.
I did answer your points until you showed you aren't keeping up.
Quote:More to my point, you still haven't responded to post #4 - which was my post if you're going to bring up whose been keeping up with what thread.
I am not going to answer the same thing over and over, nor would I expect you to if you were debating 5 Christians at once. You contradicting the other recent atheist post is proof of my point anyway.