RE: Contradictions in "rational" thought
August 16, 2010 at 4:20 am
(This post was last modified: August 16, 2010 at 4:20 am by The Omnissiunt One.)
(August 15, 2010 at 10:40 pm)RAD Wrote: No you can't do that because the first also depends on the belief there is a God also. Besides we've already had two people recognize the contradiction and say one is wrong. (Which means they still don't get it)
The first depends merely on a belief in a creator, who could be a deist, impersonal god. What atheists then argue is that, given a deist god, it is very unlikely that such a being would also care for us. It's a weak argument, but not contradictory to the other one.
Quote:It's clearly implied by a thousand atheist comments about how stupid and arrogant Christians are.
These are just ad hominem attacks. The two supposedly contradictory statements are just saying: a) based on his depiction in the Bible, God is intolerant b) given that God allegedly saves Christians, he saves many people who are stupid or arrogant (whether I agree with this or not, I'm not sure, but it's irrelevant), while presumably damning many decent Hindus, Muslims, Jews, non-believers, etc.
Quote:No, the contradiction holds up because the denominations and disagreements prove some Christians do indeed think for themselves. I see what you are arguing, that if they could think for themselves, they would automatically reject any holy book. But then you get into whether Bacon, Newton and Locke could think for themselves, which would be rather foolish and anything you say would sound merely subjective.
No, they don't think for themselves. Most just accept the teachings of the denomination in which they are brought up, so they don't think for themselves. Now, of course Bacon, Newton and Locke thought for themselves. Many religious believers do too, except where it comes to matters of religion.
'We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart.' H.L. Mencken
'False religion' is the ultimate tautology.
'It is just like man's vanity and impertinence to call an animal dumb because it is dumb to his dull perceptions.' Mark Twain
'I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.' Abraham Lincoln
'False religion' is the ultimate tautology.
'It is just like man's vanity and impertinence to call an animal dumb because it is dumb to his dull perceptions.' Mark Twain
'I care not much for a man's religion whose dog and cat are not the better for it.' Abraham Lincoln