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Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
(February 10, 2015 at 7:56 am)whateverist Wrote:
(February 10, 2015 at 3:25 am)snowtracks Wrote: The snowball event before Cambrian would have been deleterious to the evolutionary modeling.


Even if you want to shoe horn in a place for a creator god, wouldn't His constant fiddling indicate a level of incompetence incompatible with His alleged omni powers? If He really were all that, shouldn't He have been able to fire off a big bang which would have netted life on earth leading to life as we know it - without any further meddling? What reason have you to think otherwise short of resorting to that opening book of the OT?
There are multi-purposes for God creating the universe; these purposes are being accomplished using natural law over a limited time frame. Occasionally, He employs natural law and natural phenomena in an extraordinary way to bring about His will…for instance the Red Sea crossing. http://ed5015.tripod.com/BRedSeaCrossing.htm, and even less occasionally, He operates supernaturally which is outside of natural law by overriding the laws of physics, such as gravity and the laws of thermodynamics. Examples: the historical Christianity belief in creation ex nihilo, and Christ walking on water. Why does God ‘fiddle’ around and not use supernatural miracles exclusively, one reason is undoubtedly it may imply that nature is God’s adversary; He created the forces of nature to serve His purposes. It's a fallacy that God's sole purpose in creating the universe is to provide a perfectly comfortable environment for life, and especially human life.

(February 8, 2015 at 12:41 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(February 7, 2015 at 2:37 am)snowtracks Wrote: Darwin had hoped later fossil discoveries would eventually eliminate what he regarded as the one outstanding anomaly associated with theory. Ref: Origin of Species, page 307 (I have it on E-book as that). The anomaly he was referring to was the Cambrian Period - (ref. Burgess Shale http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgess_Shale) - wherein appeared in the fossil records was ’disparity’ (major differences in form, phyla level) without prior ’diversity’ (minor diff. among organisms, species level ).
The future fossil evidence he had hope was never realized. Been 150 years old man, time to call it a day.

Except that we have plenty of explanation of the Cambrian period, both in fossils, and in other areas. They're here, though I doubt you'll even bother to click the link. For example, oxygen levels- which have a positive correlation with diversity in Eukaryotic life- rose just prior to, and during the Cambrian period, due to reaching a saturation point that allowed it to exist as a gas. Additionally, sufficient ozone to protect against incoming UV light formed around that time too; you don't think that those two factors, both of which are correlated with increased diversity among biological organisms, might have contributed toward the increased diversity among biological organisms in the Cambrian period? Thinking

Just pretending there's no explanation for this is lying, Snowy. Not that this is a surprise from you, at this point; unthinking scrabbling to defend the indefensible via arguments from ignorance is your stock in trade.
Oh, like I didn't know there are opposing viewpoints.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer. - by snowtracks - February 13, 2015 at 1:12 am

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