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Suffering
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RE: Suffering
Quote:Let's get this out of the way there is no nearly He is perfect. God did not make these situations happen to do so He would have had to create sin and He did not do that. Sin came into existence through Satan's disobedience and came into the creation by mans disobedience. Thus suffering was the result. You keep saying that God kills babies yet you say nothing about the millions of babies that are aborted every year. If God were the total controlling being you say He should be then this would not happen and the freedom of choice would be gone. So do you want to do away with a womans right to choose I do not see God doing that. By your logic God should stop this and do away with freedom of choice.
That was a little emotional. I not sure what that has to do with life v choice argument. I remember saying that god allows suffering which includes the death of unborn children once. But if you want to walk down that path you will find a big elephant trap called miscarriages. This making god THE biggest aborter of unborn children. As to your point it is irrelevant again. It is possible for god to materialise a world without suffering, with free will where people come to beleive in him. He has done it before and can do so now. But he doesn't. Therefore he is either not all good ( but can be all evil) or he does not exist. You need to challenge the premises if you are to blunt this argument, it is I'm afraid logically valid and is deductive not inductive reasoning.
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Suffering - by Captain Scarlet - August 13, 2010 at 5:44 pm
RE: Suffering - by chasm - August 13, 2010 at 5:45 pm
RE: Suffering - by Captain Scarlet - August 13, 2010 at 6:10 pm
RE: Suffering - by chasm - August 13, 2010 at 6:17 pm
RE: Suffering - by Rhage - August 13, 2010 at 6:18 pm
RE: Suffering - by Edwardo Piet - August 14, 2010 at 5:04 am
RE: Suffering - by Paul the Human - August 13, 2010 at 5:56 pm
RE: Suffering - by annatar - August 13, 2010 at 7:00 pm
RE: Suffering - by Rhage - August 13, 2010 at 6:00 pm
RE: Suffering - by Captain Scarlet - August 13, 2010 at 6:27 pm
RE: Suffering - by chasm - August 13, 2010 at 6:39 pm
RE: Suffering - by Godschild - August 14, 2010 at 1:37 am
RE: Suffering - by Minimalist - August 14, 2010 at 2:28 am
RE: Suffering - by Entropist - August 17, 2010 at 8:46 am
RE: Suffering - by padraic - August 14, 2010 at 2:34 am
RE: Suffering - by Tiberius - August 14, 2010 at 11:24 am
RE: Suffering - by Godschild - August 16, 2010 at 2:16 am
RE: Suffering - by Captain Scarlet - August 14, 2010 at 3:16 am
RE: Suffering - by tackattack - August 14, 2010 at 5:06 am
RE: Suffering - by The Omnissiunt One - August 14, 2010 at 8:50 am
RE: Suffering - by tackattack - August 14, 2010 at 3:05 pm
RE: Suffering - by The Omnissiunt One - August 16, 2010 at 4:08 pm
RE: Suffering - by Captain Scarlet - August 14, 2010 at 7:47 am
RE: Suffering - by tackattack - August 14, 2010 at 8:07 am
RE: Suffering - by Captain Scarlet - August 14, 2010 at 11:28 am
RE: Suffering - by Captain Scarlet - August 14, 2010 at 5:59 pm
RE: Suffering - by tackattack - August 14, 2010 at 7:19 pm
RE: Suffering - by Captain Scarlet - August 16, 2010 at 9:11 am
RE: Suffering - by Godschild - August 17, 2010 at 12:31 am
RE: Suffering - by Captain Scarlet - August 17, 2010 at 11:13 am
RE: Suffering - by tackattack - August 16, 2010 at 5:52 pm
RE: Suffering - by The Omnissiunt One - August 16, 2010 at 6:09 pm
RE: Suffering - by tackattack - August 16, 2010 at 6:43 pm
RE: Suffering - by The Omnissiunt One - August 17, 2010 at 3:59 am
RE: Suffering - by Godschild - August 17, 2010 at 10:46 pm
RE: Suffering - by Captain Scarlet - August 18, 2010 at 3:28 pm
RE: Suffering - by Entropist - August 18, 2010 at 5:55 pm
RE: Suffering - by Godschild - August 18, 2010 at 10:34 pm
RE: Suffering - by Captain Scarlet - August 19, 2010 at 6:55 am
RE: Suffering - by ib.me.ub - August 17, 2010 at 4:05 am
RE: Suffering - by tackattack - August 18, 2010 at 3:03 am
RE: Suffering - by The Omnissiunt One - August 19, 2010 at 11:26 am
RE: Suffering - by tackattack - August 19, 2010 at 7:23 am
RE: Suffering - by Captain Scarlet - August 19, 2010 at 2:03 pm
RE: Suffering - by fr0d0 - August 19, 2010 at 2:43 pm
RE: Suffering - by Godschild - August 19, 2010 at 11:37 pm
RE: Suffering - by Captain Scarlet - August 20, 2010 at 9:23 am
RE: Suffering - by RachelSkates - August 19, 2010 at 10:50 am
RE: Suffering - by RachelSkates - August 19, 2010 at 3:08 pm
RE: Suffering - by Captain Scarlet - August 19, 2010 at 5:08 pm
RE: Suffering - by tackattack - August 20, 2010 at 12:47 am
RE: Suffering - by The Omnissiunt One - August 20, 2010 at 8:08 am
RE: Suffering - by tackattack - August 20, 2010 at 2:48 pm
RE: Suffering - by Godschild - August 21, 2010 at 1:13 am
RE: Suffering - by RachelSkates - August 21, 2010 at 11:40 am
RE: Suffering - by Godschild - August 21, 2010 at 5:35 pm
RE: Suffering - by Captain Scarlet - August 21, 2010 at 6:31 pm
RE: Suffering - by Entropist - August 21, 2010 at 6:37 pm
RE: Suffering - by tackattack - August 21, 2010 at 11:16 pm
RE: Suffering - by RachelSkates - August 21, 2010 at 11:25 pm
RE: Suffering - by tackattack - August 21, 2010 at 11:30 pm

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