RE: Two babies discussion.
February 16, 2015 at 12:04 am
(This post was last modified: February 16, 2015 at 12:06 am by Lek.)
(February 15, 2015 at 11:50 pm)Esquilax Wrote: It explicitly commands the first two, and it's the same god in both the new and old testament. In fact, Jesus is that god too, so when you say you're a follower of Christ, you're saying you're a follower of a genocidal, slavery advocating, rape marriage law making, psychopath. You just think he got better because now he only allows for some of the atrocities, and sees fit to torture people after they die. It's sort of like following Hitler because he says he's cool now, in full knowledge of the torture basement he's built under his house, because he only tortures people some of the time, and told you not to mention the concentration camps at all. Only, you know, worse, because god's body count is higher and more indiscriminate.
Still the same god, Lek. Still the same guy, whether you choose to forget the old testament out of convenience or not. Moreover, Jesus was no saint: he said that none of the old testament laws would change, remember? Or that slaves should obey their masters, no matter how cruel? Or that only the Israelites would be saved, the rest would burn in hell? The hell that only begins to appear in Jesus' teachings and not the old testament?
You don't follow Jesus either. You follow a sanitized, lionized caricature of him, defining him only by his good words, and ignoring the evil ones entirely. And worse, you then argue as though everyone else is obligated to assume your shiny, half-truth version of your religion when they argue.
But I'm not required to lie to myself when I discuss christianity just because you do, and I can't imagine why you would seriously ask me to.
Jesus did say that not one iota of the law was changed, but he fulfilled the requirements of the law and relieved us of living under it. The new testament was a new covenant with mankind. Muslims think they are still living under the old covenant, which explains their religious outlook. They don't accept what Jesus did for us. They still have the mindset of the pre-Christ world.
(February 15, 2015 at 11:58 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:(February 15, 2015 at 11:51 pm)Lek Wrote: I'm afraid you're right Vorion.
Can a schism of Christianity that is lax on divorce/remarriage transmit Salvation to any of their adherents ??
Only Christ can transmit salvation. Acceptance of divorce is a sin, but doesn't represent a schism.