(September 20, 2014 at 4:40 pm)whateverist Wrote: Don't get me wrong, I'm agnostic too. Very much so in fact.
But 'militant' agnostics, like a certain new member whose user name cuts a little close to home, tick me off. Please tell me what it is you think you know about what these god-things are that makes you argue so vociferously against non-belief in them.
I get agnosticism. I don't get anti-atheism. What is that about? Personally I have no more trouble with agnostic theists than I do agnostic atheists. These are my peoples.
Anti-atheist agnostics, like their brethren atheist anti-theists, carry around huge axes to grind. Both talk proudly of reasoned argument and evidence. But both are obviously more animated by emotional bile than any reason they actually own up to. Both are obviously working through issues which cloud their judgment.
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Hi Whateverist: same with how radical left/anti-right and radical right/anti-left cancel each other out.They waste resources campaigning against each other, when those resources could have gone into solving problems instead of fighting for control.
I think this is an expression of pack mentality, barking down the other dog, marking territory, and trying to get the head of one pack to dominate the other by bullying.
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.
The more they reject and blame each other, the other side does equally.
What I find is the more focus gets shifted to solving conflicts and investing in solutions both sides agree on, then we won't see such a need to win by bullying.
We can seek win-win situations where all sides contribute equally.
In the meantime, some people are still going through their tribal pack mentality phase, and need to establish territory boundaries and pecking order hierarchy.
when we are done organizing which people are under which groups and which leaders, maybe we can negotiate or separate solutions by groups. and get over the fact we have differences in beliefs and approaches that determine our affiliations.
