RE: Two babies discussion.
February 16, 2015 at 1:14 pm
(This post was last modified: February 16, 2015 at 1:25 pm by Lek.)
(February 16, 2015 at 11:45 am)Jenny A Wrote: Marriage for life, love your neighbor as yourself, and don't envy your neighbor is not original to the New Testament. You need to read some Greeks. The Babylonians managed love your neighbor as yourself.
They were also theists. But it's okay if christian morality wasn't original. As Paul stated in Romans, Chapter 1 - no one is without excuse, because God is evident in nature.
(February 16, 2015 at 1:03 pm)robvalue Wrote: Cool. So, go around killing and fucking whoever you want, then say sorry.
What a system!
If "not trying very hard not to sin" is a forgiveable sin, like Robbie said, then the system is broken. That you'd even want such a ludicrous system is beyond me. Forgiveness cannot come from some uninvolved third party, it's absurd. The whole thing discourages personal responsibility, which is one of the main points of morality. But then, religious "morality" is not morality at all, it's ass kissing.
It's all in the heart. It we plan to sin with the intention to just ask for forgiveness, then we won't be forgiven. If we strive to live a good life, but sin in a weak moment, and are truly repentant, then we receive forgiveness. God knows our intentions and if we are acting out of love. When we choose to follow Christ, we make a decision to love him and to live moral lives, and if we say we follow him, but intentionally continue to sin, then we are frauds and not his followers.
Jesus is not an uninvolved third party, but is intimately involved with us. He is God, the Son. When we sin, we sin against God. Jesus is our mediator with the Father.
