Suffering

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1-I addressed accountability for suffering, the why of suffering was addressed in my rebuttal to point 4.

4- I didn't say all suffering leads to human advancement. I said suffering is a primary part of learning and evolving. Lots of suffering is needless, hence the term "needless suffering". They can be traced causally back to any number of reasons, most however are man-made in origins, hence my stance that mankind does far worse in the name of God than God does through man.

So why does God allow needless suffering, when he could presumably bring about human advancement without it? Also, a large part of suffering is not man-made. Droughts, floods, volcanoes, tsunamis, predators in nature... need I go on? Even humankind's own nature, our capacity for violence and war and sadism, is not our fault. God must account for this, too.

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I thought I addressed this but I'll rephrase.
God created everything, therefore he created suffering. It's productivity, usefullness, or causes are given to us in the form of choice. I'll illustrate. God make a bi blak rock. He created humans who will have to move that rock to create a path. What the human's do with the rock (how it's disposed, moved, etc) is up to us. They put it aside and by the rock's round nature it rolls around and kill somone. Was that God's fault for creating the rock, putting it there in the first place, or is it the human's fault for not watching what the hell he was doing? Suffering is a tool that's necessary for evolution and thiving as a species. It's worth (needless or productive) is based on our involvement in it. Did you sponsor 5 families in your home so the don't have to live in a village on the side of a volcano? Did you help build levees that protected a village from flooding? Have you done research to help prevent infant death rates from climbing? Our capacity for violence, war and sadism is not our fault? That sounds like schewing accountability and a lack of personal responsibility. I am responsible for my own desires and animalistic instincts and it's my social obligation to use the roductively not destructively.