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Middle School Teacher's Memorial
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RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial
(February 18, 2015 at 5:12 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote: But the FFRF always acts on behalf of a citizen in the community. If someone asks them to represent them on this, should they say no?

I agree the PR thing is important. But are we ever winning hearts and minds with this stuff? Is FFRF, by asking to have monuments, crosses, etc removed ever not going to be polarizing? And---ask yourself this: aren't instances like this even more impactful when it comes to future policy making? Next time that school board makes a decision about about book handouts or sponsors at the baseball game, don't you think they'll be a little more apt to take this into account, and by proxy and media attention, other school boards/districts?

I wasn't aware that that was how FFRF chose their cases, but I see no reason to tell someone no if it isn't the right battle to fight.

I just don't see how winning a bunch of tiny fights like this one by legal fiat is going to accomplish anything in the big picture, and I'm not sure that forcing people into secualrism isn't going to be counterproductive. The conflict between religion and the public domain is such a broad issue that I don't think taking such a narrow approach is going to prove effective.

We can either legally force them to remove monuments or we can convince enough of the moderately religious(who are really the people enabling this kind of thing) that the momuments should be removed, and I am unconvinced that the former is a better approach than the latter.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by SteelCurtain - February 17, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Metis - February 17, 2015 at 7:18 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by AFTT47 - February 17, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by bennyboy - February 17, 2015 at 7:36 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by SteelCurtain - February 17, 2015 at 7:39 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 1:03 am
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by AFTT47 - February 17, 2015 at 8:07 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by SteelCurtain - February 17, 2015 at 8:34 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by emilynghiem - February 17, 2015 at 8:46 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Jenny A - February 17, 2015 at 9:53 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by robvalue - February 18, 2015 at 3:14 am
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 18, 2015 at 2:00 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by SteelCurtain - February 18, 2015 at 2:44 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 18, 2015 at 3:20 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by robvalue - February 18, 2015 at 3:00 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Clueless Morgan - February 18, 2015 at 3:52 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 18, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by SteelCurtain - February 18, 2015 at 5:12 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 18, 2015 at 5:31 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by SteelCurtain - February 18, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 18, 2015 at 6:07 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Clueless Morgan - February 18, 2015 at 5:33 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Faith No More - February 18, 2015 at 5:58 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Faith No More - February 18, 2015 at 5:09 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Chas - February 18, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 18, 2015 at 5:48 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Chas - February 19, 2015 at 2:43 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 19, 2015 at 4:05 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Huggy Bear - February 18, 2015 at 6:00 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by SteelCurtain - February 18, 2015 at 6:55 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Huggy Bear - February 19, 2015 at 12:18 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by SteelCurtain - February 19, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 19, 2015 at 1:48 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by emilynghiem - February 19, 2015 at 5:06 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 4:33 am
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Thumpalumpacus - February 19, 2015 at 4:50 am
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by emilynghiem - February 19, 2015 at 4:41 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 19, 2015 at 5:25 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 4:56 am
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Clueless Morgan - February 19, 2015 at 11:58 am
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 4:45 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Clueless Morgan - February 20, 2015 at 12:24 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by SteelCurtain - February 20, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 20, 2015 at 3:46 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by AFTT47 - February 19, 2015 at 11:51 am
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Dragonetti - February 20, 2015 at 12:43 pm

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