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Middle School Teacher's Memorial
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RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial
(February 18, 2015 at 5:46 pm)SteelCurtain Wrote:
(February 18, 2015 at 5:31 pm)Pyrrho Wrote: On the contrary, as long as there are Christian symbols on display, and not symbols of other religions, there is a privileged place for Christianity. It is giving Christianity a privileged place for as long as there are no other symbols.

And if one wanted no religions to have a more privileged place than any other, there would have to be equal numbers of symbols for every imaginable religion. As that is impractical, as well as undesirable, it is best to keep religious symbols from being displayed by public schools. This is supposed to be the law of the land, and it should be followed. Those who violate the law should be punished, not rewarded, for their transgressions. (It would be different if the law were unjust, but as that is not in this case in this example, that hypothetical is irrelevant to this case.)

But is there cause to place the symbols for the other religions there? Were there cause, they would have to reject them for privilege to be shown. If what you said was the case, then every instance of FFRF or AHS or CoR using public space (like city hall) would be giving them privilege because they are the only group represented, whether or not any other group asked or petitioned.

Showing privilege requires unequal treatment. I don't think this qualifies as unequal treatment, because no one else has been denied.

Again, I agree with the fact that the memorial should never have been approved in its current state. And it has since had all the crosses removed, and the family is okay with that, and understands. The issue, as far as I'm concerned, is resolved.

But I'm still on the fence as to whether this was a "success" for FFRF.


No matter how you slice it, as it was originally, it was advertising Christianity, without also having advertising for other religions. That is an endorsement of one religion.

Also, there is a difference between using public space for meetings, and public space being used to display permanent memorials.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by SteelCurtain - February 17, 2015 at 6:59 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Metis - February 17, 2015 at 7:18 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by AFTT47 - February 17, 2015 at 7:24 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by bennyboy - February 17, 2015 at 7:36 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by SteelCurtain - February 17, 2015 at 7:39 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 1:03 am
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by AFTT47 - February 17, 2015 at 8:07 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by SteelCurtain - February 17, 2015 at 8:34 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by emilynghiem - February 17, 2015 at 8:46 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Jenny A - February 17, 2015 at 9:53 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by robvalue - February 18, 2015 at 3:14 am
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 18, 2015 at 2:00 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by SteelCurtain - February 18, 2015 at 2:44 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 18, 2015 at 3:20 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by robvalue - February 18, 2015 at 3:00 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Clueless Morgan - February 18, 2015 at 3:52 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 18, 2015 at 4:43 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by SteelCurtain - February 18, 2015 at 5:12 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 18, 2015 at 5:31 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by SteelCurtain - February 18, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 18, 2015 at 6:07 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Clueless Morgan - February 18, 2015 at 5:33 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Faith No More - February 18, 2015 at 5:58 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Faith No More - February 18, 2015 at 5:09 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Chas - February 18, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 18, 2015 at 5:48 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Chas - February 19, 2015 at 2:43 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 19, 2015 at 4:05 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Huggy Bear - February 18, 2015 at 6:00 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by SteelCurtain - February 18, 2015 at 6:55 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Huggy Bear - February 19, 2015 at 12:18 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by SteelCurtain - February 19, 2015 at 12:25 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 19, 2015 at 1:48 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by emilynghiem - February 19, 2015 at 5:06 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 4:33 am
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Thumpalumpacus - February 19, 2015 at 4:50 am
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by emilynghiem - February 19, 2015 at 4:41 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 19, 2015 at 5:25 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by robvalue - February 19, 2015 at 4:56 am
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Clueless Morgan - February 19, 2015 at 11:58 am
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Godschild - February 19, 2015 at 4:45 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Clueless Morgan - February 20, 2015 at 12:24 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by SteelCurtain - February 20, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Pyrrho - February 20, 2015 at 3:46 pm
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by AFTT47 - February 19, 2015 at 11:51 am
RE: Middle School Teacher's Memorial - by Dragonetti - February 20, 2015 at 12:43 pm

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