RE: Atheists only vote please: Do absolute MORAL truths exist? Is Rape ALWAYS "wr...
February 19, 2015 at 12:16 am
(This post was last modified: February 19, 2015 at 12:19 am by GrandizerII.)
(February 19, 2015 at 12:07 am)NuclearJaguar Wrote: Yes I think universal moral truths exist.
Rape isn't suddenly ok just because a particular society may see it as permissable. Whichever way you cut it up, it's still a violation of someone's space and privacy. That doesn't change just because these people over here are ok with it.
I highly doubt a woman (or man) on the recieving end of a rape is suddenly going to be like "oh yes! My society thinks this is ok, so I'm going to enjoy it!" no.
I mean yeah on some things, there is a grey area. I think we can agree on serious crimes like rape or murder, those are always wrong.
I still don't see how this means it's objectively wrong. As you showed in your post, feelings strongly come into play ... and feelings are subjective. A victim of rape may be traumatized by the event, but the rapist would have taken pleasure out of it. What is the objective basis for considering one side's feelings but not the other party's?
(February 18, 2015 at 11:40 pm)Sterben Wrote: How can a society enforce a anti-rape culture without taking away creative rights? Look at how many books, movies, plays, and T.V shows based around rape? A lot of them are very well written, but only indented for certain minds who can separate a story from reality.
Easy. Make actual rape a crime, but make it ok for creative works to depict rape in writing or illustration or simulation. Being anti-rape does not mean being anti-freedom of artistic expression (so long as no one is being harmed, of course).
This is already the case anyway in most Western countries, is it not?
