RE: Atheists only vote please: Do absolute MORAL truths exist? Is Rape ALWAYS "wr...
February 19, 2015 at 7:05 pm
(February 19, 2015 at 6:54 pm)Irrational Wrote:(February 19, 2015 at 3:02 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Excuse me? Here, we are regular members first and mods second. I am allowed to express any opinion I want here, just as anyone else is. Did you see any threat to shut the thread down or attempt to censor this discussion? No? Right.
Appeal to emotion? Fine. I'm guilty when it comes to rape. I've been raped myself, and now I'm a volunteer advocate for sexual assault victims. I see raped people all the time. I'm the one who sits with them, usually immediately following their rapes, while they're drilled by a cop and examined by a forensic nurse. When people are actually discussing whether rape can ever be morally right, I have a big problem with it, and it's easy to lose respect for anyone who says it can; whether you're going to call it objective or subjective, I don't give a shit. It's wrong, and anyone who says otherwise can go ahead and fuck off. Yeah, I'm emotional.
Nothing wrong with feeling unpleasant emotions regarding rape. I'm not trying to deprive you of that. Really sorry for what you went through.
It's just no one here is saying they believe it's right. So when anyone here says it's not objectively wrong, this is only because the nature of morality itself is being questioned as objective. At the end of the day, rape is wrong for most people. People should have the right to express philosophical opinions on morality without being shamed about it.
(February 19, 2015 at 6:52 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: Maybe you shouldn't post like an asshole, then. I don't see an apology yet from you for questioning my objectivity.
No, you don't get to "demand" an apology from me. I apologize when I have to.
NO rape is wrong, in evolution because even in other primates and mammals we see the victims of it react negatively to the act. It is a natural reaction to react negatively to a violation of your space and or body. Your body is your resource and you evolve to gain control over that resource, when that resource is violated you cease to have control.
It is only inconsequential to the totality of all of evolution. It does create reproduction, but it is still and act of force and mammals and primates which we are related to react negatively to acts of force. Rape is one act of force. Cooperation and empathy are the other aspect of our species and those create lager numbers that reject force to protect the tribe and or the individual.
