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If there were a creator, what would be their limits?
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RE: If there were a creator, what would be their limits?
(February 19, 2015 at 3:15 am)robvalue Wrote: ...
As to the baker thing, all we know is that by assumption he made this reality, so he his power is, at a minimum, high enough to make all of this. Or at least, it was. No reason to think the creator still exists at all.

Yes, that is an excellent point. If the universe was created by some being, it was capable of creating the universe. It may no longer be as it was, perhaps being old and senile, or maybe dead. All that could be said, if we knew that the universe was created by a being (which, of course, we don't know and have absolutely no reason to believe at all), that it was powerful enough to create this, at the time it created this. That entails nothing about it presently at all. And it also would give us good reason to believe, that it was either very limited in its abilities, or it was evil, given the mess that is the world.

"A wise man ... proportions his belief to the evidence."
— David Hume, An Enquiry Concerning Human Understanding, Section X, Part I.
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RE: If there were a creator, what would be their limits? - by Pyrrho - February 19, 2015 at 8:11 pm

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