(August 19, 2010 at 4:06 pm)Welsh cake Wrote: Basically, it's safe to say, if god doesn't need a first-cause, then neither does the universe require a first-cause.
Nope, its not. Since the universe most probably had a absolute beginning, it must have had a cause. God however dwells in a timeless eternal dimension, without beginning, and without a end, and therefore does not need a cause.