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Fine Tuning Argument
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RE: Fine Tuning Argument
(August 20, 2010 at 8:53 pm)The_Flying_Skeptic Wrote:
Quote:Astronomer Fred Hoyle reports that his atheism was shaken by his own discovery that in the stars, carbon just manages to form and then just avoids complete conversion into oxygen. If one atomic level had varied half a per cent, life would have been impossible. "Would you not say to yourself . . . 'Some supercalculating intellect must have designed the properties of the carbon atom, otherwise the chance of my finding such an atom through the blind forces of nature would be utterly minuscule' ? Of course you would. . . . The carbon atom is a fix.

I quoted this from nogodaloud. The idea that that a 'supercalculating intellect' is required conflicts with their deity being omnipotent. The idea that an omnipotent deity needs to make sure that the laws of nature allow for existence of life defeats the purpose of believing that the existence of life is a miracle (contradicting the laws of nature [how many times have you heard a creationist argue that life contradicts the laws of thermodynamics?]): If a deity went out of its way to make sure that the laws of nature were just right for carbon to form in a star or during a supernova, why not fine tune the universe so that life will come into existence naturally all together? What do you think?

imagine if the law of gravity would not exist...... we could not exist either.

So, the omnipotence of God must be defined. Omnipotence and “all powerful” are incorrect words to use when encompassing all possibilities of illogical or self-contradicting occurances. In Christianity we have
this statement regarding God being able to create a rock too big to move, or this sort of thing. “Nonsense is nonsense, even when you try to apply it to God.”

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Fine Tuning Argument - by The_Flying_Skeptic - August 20, 2010 at 8:53 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by LastPoet - August 20, 2010 at 9:06 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Minimalist - August 20, 2010 at 9:33 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by NoGodaloud ? - August 21, 2010 at 12:03 am
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by The_Flying_Skeptic - August 22, 2010 at 3:23 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Welsh cake - August 21, 2010 at 6:28 am
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Eilonnwy - August 21, 2010 at 7:09 am
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by tackattack - August 21, 2010 at 7:59 am
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Eilonnwy - August 21, 2010 at 8:05 am
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Captain Scarlet - August 22, 2010 at 2:35 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by NoGodaloud ? - August 22, 2010 at 4:26 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by LastPoet - August 22, 2010 at 7:42 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by NoGodaloud ? - August 22, 2010 at 9:11 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by LastPoet - August 22, 2010 at 9:17 pm
RE: Fine Tuning Argument - by Captain Scarlet - September 2, 2010 at 5:52 pm

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