(February 23, 2015 at 5:44 pm)Dystopia Wrote:(February 23, 2015 at 5:34 pm)KUSA Wrote: Everyone hates Walmart (including myself) but everyone shops there.Apply the same logic to every major corporation out there.
If everyone would refuse to spend their money there it would go away. There are alternative stores than Walmart.
Quote:If they don't earn their pay, why should they be paid? Why should someone else have to surrender some of their own hard-earned money to support the loafer?This is relative - Everyone who doesn't work is not earning their pay. There are people who cost more than what they produce, not only lazy people but disabled, depressed, ill and older people. In this case you are against specifically people who don't work out of their own will but I have a questions:
- How do you determine scientifically who does not want to work?
Quote:Mind you, I'm not against welfare or unemployment benefits; but I don't think welfare should be unconditional. I don't think people who refuse to look for work should get unemployment benefits, either -- and the federal government agrees.In my country you are legally required to look for work and you have to show up every week in the unemployment center. It's part of the deal. But honestly there's a lot of conflicting variables - What if someone refuses the job because it's poorly paid? What if the lazy fuck has a family to feed?
Quote:I have no problem helping the unfortunate who need it, but I'll be goddamned if I go along with paying some yutz to sit on his ass and do nothing simply because he doesn't want to do anything to earn the money.This has been said already but I'll repeat it - Most people on welfare don't:
1 - Refuse to work
2 - Earn that much (in most first world countries money for welfare is not enough to even afford basic needs - There's people on minimum age AND welfare)
3 - The money spent unnecessarily on welfare is not very significant compared to other illegitimate government spending
Ultimately all of us will pay for something we don't want and it's impossible to determine where our tax money goes - I can't do it, you can't do it, inevitably my money will eventually pay for someone who could have chosen a better lifestyle and made better choices, but I prefer paying for those people and not allow anyone to die on hunger. This is also dependent on personal opinion, some people don't like paying for certain categories of people while others are fine with it; some people want to pay for everyone and others for no one
"Better lifestyle" code for be a clone of me. I am talking about human empathy, not inequity. Yes you are right everyone pays taxes for things they don't like. It is just that some have a really horrible attitude because they vote for a certain party or have wealth that those titles means they get to decide for everyone. It would seem that if they were right no one would be complaining, not that they ever had the absolute right to decide for everyone.
