Contradictions in "rational" thought

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I asked an agnostic today, who says the NT was made up, how fishermen managed to write similies like Shakespeare. He thought for a moment and said, "Well, they had scholars then you know."

Oh please.The disciples did not write the NT .The authors are anonymous. Jesus' fishermen would almost certainly have been illiterate and probably spoke only Aramaic..

I'll takes that as agreement that scholars wrote the words of Jesus, rather than fishermen

As for the Shakespearian turn of phrase: The NT was written in Greek and then translated into Latin. Centuries later, it was translated into English.The most well known translation is probably the King James version,written in what is known 'Skakesperean English' . Modern versions, also translated from the Greek,such as "The Good News Bible', lack the elegant prose of the King James Bible .

That's an obvious straw man argument. I said nothing about turns of phrase. A similie is a similie in any language.

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Seeing the original post, i can't help but feel that its incomplete! You put forward a proposition that atheists with their, what you call, "rational" thought contradict each other at times, and put down some arguments you say you have seen atheists make! And even though I do agree with the people who pointed out that you put them out of context and hence, right there, fail to make a point, I'm gonna play along and go with it! Ok so, lets, just for a moment, accept that what you say holds any kind of water, again, it doesn't but I'll play along! What is your end point? That because some atheists contradict some others, it means that God exists? How is that logic in any form? Also, you forget that there is no church of Atheism where we all get together and write a holy book and we live, die and argue according to it! The ONLY thing that really all atheists have in common, is the fact that they don't believe in the existence of a God. How we got to that conclusion, why and why not, you will find a million different answers to all of these questions, because that is the beauty of not having an imaginary friend or daddy, dictating to you what you should or shouldn't do, say or shouldn't say and so on! Also, you say that atheists contradict themselves, well, look at the so called holy books! There are loads and loads of contradictions! So why do you believe them?

I believe the Gospels for the same reasons the agnostic historian Durant believes them. He calls the contradictions "minutae." BTW I don't quite buy Matthew's "walking dead" report. I believe it is probably hearsay he heard and thought was true. It is also so fantastic that other narrators would have reported it as well. But then I don't know and I don't make the gross logical error of "false in one part so false in all." If half of Mark is true, Jesus is who he said and he is savior of the world, you see.

You do know all the logical fallacies and try to avoid them I assume?

The point of the thread is that at least half of atheists don't think logically, and make up stuff as they go, no more or less.

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Contradiction #6

Skeptic #1: The crucifixion stories contradict each other, making them suspicious.

Skeptic # 2: Luke slavishly copied Matthews crucifixion story, making them suspicious. (Earl Doherty)

So then, are they too similar, or two different to be believed?

Once again, stand alone assertions that contradict, meaning somebody has a logical thinking problem.