(August 22, 2010 at 2:35 pm)Captain Scarlet Wrote: 2 It misuses probablity theory to say gee whizz look at how improbable this is. Improbable things happen all the time and continue to do so, it is an after the fact argument and has no predictive power
http://elshamah.heavenforum.com/astronom...e-t191.htm
Lee Smolin (a world-class physicist and a leader in quantum gravity) estimates that if the physical constants of the universe were chosen randomly, the epistemic-probability of ending up with a world with carbon chemistry is less than one part in 10^220.
This epistemic-probability is one part in: 10000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 0.
Epistemic Probability: 0.0000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 00000 1
you must be VERY credulous in chance, to think it is a good explanation for the existence of life, don't you think ? why do you not think, design is a better explanation ?
Quote:3 If true then its an argument against design as the universe needed fine tuning and wasn't perfect at creation
what shall that mean ? that gravity for example would be disnecessary, in order to our universe being perfect ?
Quote:4 Even if true because of 3 above the designer wasn't perfect because he created something incompetently that it needed tuning
Non sequitur. Life to exist, needs order.
http://elshamah.heavenforum.com/does-god...n-t217.htm
In Christianity we have this statement regarding God being able to create a rock too big to move, or this sort of thing. “Nonsense is nonsense, even when you try to apply it to God.”
Quote:5 Even if true it says nothing for the designer, it could have been anything
that is true. But it doesnt remove the argument for a designer.
Quote:6 It says nothing for the purpose of the universe.
And how should that fact remove the validness of the argument ?
Quote: 99.999999%+ of the universe is a very hostile place to us. What makes us think we were the object of it?
just the fact that we exist, and the odds, this to happen by chance.
Quote:The universe is doomed to entropic heat death
So ?
